Thump It

BibleThumperby Brad Nelson6/30/15
One thing I think is true is that most Christians are babes in the woods regarding homosexual marriage and the various other Leftist initiatives. They, unlike Obama, are weak in regards to making the moral argument. And as this site’s good friend, Nik, has often said, in order to make the argument for conservatism, limited government, the Constitution — let alone the traditional definition of marriage — we have to at least be able to make a good moral argument. We have failed in that regard (but understandable, given that much of the culture functions as a swarming and ubiquitous Leftist seminary).

It could be, as others have suggested here, that the libtardization of Christianity will act as a long-term healthy process to restore faith where it belongs (hint: in God, not Karl Marx). Thankfully, God has specially ordained me in the capacity to pull no punches. I have no coffers to fill or glass cathedrals to build. So I will say that I think most Christians are weak in regards to understanding their own doctrine and thus in making a moral argument. It’s thus difficult to believe that a further dumbing-down of Christianity will lead to any kind of moral clarity.

You’d hardly mistake me for a bible-thumper. But sometimes it must be thumped. Christians have tended to do so regarding arbitrary stuff. Whether I eat an Almond Joy or a Mounds depends not on the presence of the devil but on whether “sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don’t.” Pounding bibles about arbitrary stuff such as this has weakened the moral foundation of Christians (thus that all-important Third Commandment).

But regarding male and female, there is a reasonable basis to believe that we were made that way. It’s not arbitrary, thus admonitions against men using other men like females is a good one. It’s also good to understand such things as perversions…things to be guarded against. And if such impulses exist, they should be treated as diseases, sins, or mental disorders.

However, in case you haven’t heard, Darwin has determined that human beings are completely arbitrary, of no more significance than a nematode, perhaps less. We are not the purposeful product of a designing intelligence but are the product of mere random chance. Bite on that for a while, for unless you do, you can’t possible understand why homosexual marriage is becoming the enforced law of the land. Nor will those “secular” types understand where their own hidden liberalism lies and why it is destructive despite what they believe are their good intentions and enlightened viewpoints. “Without God, all things are permitted.”

If we have no purpose and no standards grounded in anything but impulses, then “If it feels good, do it” or “As long as it harms nobody else” will be the moral underpinning of things. In other words “It’s all good” or “Whatever.” It will be, as Dennis Prager notes, feelings instead of standards. An atheistic Darwinian underpinning for society inevitably falls toward hedonism, for it can conceive of no other purpose for existence. And without a grounding in something Cosmic, we inevitably can only be grounded in the political. And politics (as we’ve seen just with the homosexual marriage issue) can change on a dime. One day Plan A is bad. The next it’s good, necessary and so obviously on “the right side of history.”

Those with some knowledge of the Soviet Union or Mao’s China (from whence the term “politically correct” originated) understand the horrible arbitrary nature of ethics-via-politics. When Jonah Goldberg was in the cultural fight (prior to caving to the homosexual mafia), he wrote Liberal Fascism which stands as a fair warning against the politicization of ethics.

Another battle line drawn is that of feminism which should never be ignored and never be underestimated. Never underestimate the deep animus towards males by the feminist dogma. Therefore nothing could make feminists giggle more than turning men into women.

So, Christians, do thump that bible. But don’t be shallow about it. Someone once said “Wise as serpents, harmless as doves.” The libtard faction of Christianity has excelled at the latter. But few are embracing the former. And part of wisdom is understanding the basic tenets underpinning Leftists beliefs. Until you do, you’ll have a difficult time making a moral argument against them. At the very least, make the case that:

+ Sex (or gender) is not arbitrary but inherent in our biology — a biology that did not, and could not, “evolve” via random material processes.

+ We need strong, good men…giving in to narcissistic feminist impulses (whereby the female is held up as the gold standard) is destructive.

+ Using a screwdriver as a hammer has never been a good thing to do…it may “feel good” to be a butt-buddy, but it’s not normal and certainly not healthy.

+ As Dan Flynn said in a recent article about the Confederate Flag, “Nevertheless, a Taliban vibe permeates the crusade to erase history, tear down statues, remove books off the shelf, and ban video games.” Unless you understand the totalitarian impulse of the Left — which truly cares nothing for homosexuals — then you’re just a useful idiot, caring only to conform to what those around you believe. And people wonder how Nazi Germany started.

+ Families are the foundation of civilization. To glorify homosexuality and homosexual marriage is to doom society to a dead-end ideology. One of the largest problems facing Europe is that native Europeans are not reproducing while the Muslims they have imported are multiplying like mad. “Sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll” is not a sound basis upon which to form a society — especially if the sex does little to forward the next generation.

+ There is such thing as right and wrong. Stick up for what is right.

+ Understand that we need maturity in our society and that “Progressivism” is, at heart, the Peter Pan “always remaining a child” ideology. “You need maturity t0 acknowledge consequences to your policies” — Dennis Prager. “Leftism is sort of a child-like world where you live in fantasy thinking” — Dennis Prager


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13 Responses to Thump It

  1. Timothy Lane says:

    It’s always nice when someone points out the similarity between liberals seeking to destroy any part of our history they don’t like and radical Muslims seeking to destroy any part of their history they don’t like.

    Homosexual behavior may or may not be unnatural, but single-sex parenting (by one means or another) is generally inadequate compared to a normal family. This is what the Five Degenerates decided to ignore (or perhaps deny; liberalism has no regard for either reality or logic).

    Liberals like to appear as harmless as doves when in reality they’re as venomous as vipers.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      I could have condensed the main thrust of what I said to “Engage the culture war.” Many haven’t. And just spouting off on the internet doesn’t count either. You have to be able to look your fellow man in the eye and say, “God made mankind male and female. Doing this other shit, although perhaps it shouldn’t be illegal, should not be sanctified as on par with marriage.”

      That’s all. And if you can’t make that argument, come to StubbornThings and we’ll talk about it. We’ll give you some advice.

    • James Smith says:

      “Homosexual behavior may or may not be unnatural”
      Correct me if I am wrong but how can you possibly make, “a good moral argument” if you are unable to recognize the fact that sodomy is not only unnatural but it so offends the One who “male and female created He them” that He “darkens their senseless heart,— gives them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness,— and unto vile passions,— and unto a reprobate mind to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful: who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practice them”.
      Pardon the thumping but sodomy is by no means an arbitrary issue.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        Suppositories are unnatural as far as I’m concerned, James. 😀 Larger things…oh, shudder.

        As you well know, there is the “naturalistic fallacy” that always has to be dealt with. That which may be “natural” (or at least common enough) isn’t necessarily good. Wars are “natural.” Theft is “natural.” Adultery is “natural.”

        The question regarding homosexual behavior is, Should it be regarded as worthy to the point of being on par with marriage? Clearly not. I’m not for stoning homosexuals or even shunning them. But we ought to treat the entire business as an unhealthy act. We do our children a service if we steer them away from such things, not treat them as normal.

        I’m convinced that Dennis Prager (and myself) has his thumb on the situation. He said today on the radio, “You need maturity t0 acknowledge consequences to your policies.” And it’s been pretty obvious to me for some time that we are living in a juvenile culture. Dennis also said, “Leftism is sort of a child-like world where you live in fantasy thinking.”

        A friend came in today pretty heated over all that is going on, including the bizarre and absurd rainbow White House. He noted how many of his Christian friends have caved on the issue using the commandment to “love” as the rationale. Well, yes, do love your fellow man. But is that all we’re required to do? Are we not to hold them to standards for their sake and ours? Are we not to try to correct them when they are wrong?

        No. Only adults think that way. Clearly many, if not most, Christians have devolved to a permanent adolescence.

        I’ll be blunt. I have a pretty good memory about such things and can’t pull up the chapter and verse of comments I made years ago. But I remember scoffing at Paul’s admonition:

        When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

        Now I realize how absolutely central that is to living a moral life. We cannot stay children forever. That doesn’t mean we can’t have fun, let off steam, be silly at times, be creative, and all that. Nobody said that being an adult had to be dour, overly serious, and dull. But we do need to advance beyond being forever of an adolescent mindset which is where many, if not most, people are stuck now.

        Love, yes. Bend over backwards (no pun intended) for our fellow man. Our job is not to be nothing but scolds. But we also have a duty to shepherd people away from unhealthy and foolish things. To not do so is to play the role of a child. We have to grow up and take on the moral responsibilities of being an adult. The hippie generation is not ready to do that, nor the backward progeny they have raised.

        • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

          When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things

          1 Corinthians 13:11.

          And fittingly, the follows the most beautiful verse of the Bible,

          1 Corinthians 13:1-10

          in which Paul praises the greatness of Love.

          Now what is one to draw from that? Certainly not the infantile argument used by your friend’s “Christian” opponents. Paul’s writing puts things in context and perspective, both things which the adolescents of our culture have no concept of. Love yes, but act the adult. A loving parent does not let a child do everything the child might wish to do.

          You can see why I have little patience for many who call themselves Christians. I expect most people to be less brilliant than a 40 watt light bulb. But I am appalled at the lack of brilliant honest clear instruction coming from the leaders of the Church. I guess it has to do with their being for energy saving devices. Schmucks!!!

        • Timothy Lane says:

          Leftism seeks to infantilize the population, and has largely been successful with their own base voters. Dependency is one example of this, but irresponsibility is another. Both are key leftist goals.

      • James Smith says:

        Please allow me to rephrase that. “There is nothing about sodomy that would cause it to be an arbitrary issue.”
        As Christian’s, our judgment upon it ought not to be contingent upon one’s personal discretion. There is a reason this passage in Romans, in the 1st chapter of the first letter of the canon for which Paul the apostle to the gentiles is responsible, is centered upon the unnatural act and all of it’s negative results. The judgment, by a power much higher than any of us, has already been given upon this most unnatural of acts.
        Even then, the message of Romans follows and God’s mercy is available for all of us sinners.

  2. As usual, Brad — excellent discussion. I agree — thump we must. I have this vision of filling our national bandwidth with so much logic and clear thought, let alone biblical truth, that we squeeze out the pathetic miasma that passes for political thinking. But the stench still seems to be gaining ground. Thump harder? Faster? I recently found myself in the unenviable position of having to thump my naive, 22-year-old granddaughter — she likes the floofy rainbow White House. Good grief.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      I recently found myself in the unenviable position of having to thump my naive, 22-year-old granddaughter — she likes the floofy rainbow White House. Good grief.

      Pat and some others think (and perhaps not without good cause) that this total bastardization of our culture and Christianity will cause us to perhaps reassess what we have and cherish it in a new way.

      At this point it’s obvious we can’t stop the insanity. Good grief, indeed. Anyone addicted to the cheap stage direction aimed at normalizing (excuse my French) a man sticking his pecker in another man’s bum is probably a lost cause.

      But I know that I’ve reassessed a few things and continue to. It’s the Colonel Klink rule working again. I may not know what the right answer is, but I know the Left will always show me what the wrong one. And so it is.

      And I’m thankful for you bible-thumper types here. And I say that with sincerity because, offhand, I really can’t stand the type. And I mean those who, somewhat like Muslims, find a way to insert God in everything. If the bread lands butter-side-up it’s “Praise Allah” or “Praise the Lord.” I don’t buy that for a minute. To me, that’s superstition.

      But some bible thumping I think is absolutely needed and justified. I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s not insane to believe that this universe was a conscious creation and has an overall purpose. I’ll likely have a friendly disagreement with you and others about the details. But the overall conclusion makes such a marked difference compared to the philosophy and behavior that comes from atheism/nihilism/naturalism/Progressivism.

      I’ll get warm-fuzzies pondering the immensity of the universe, the miracle of life, and the ineffability of being. But, with all due respect, only shallow fools fall for the cheap multi-color staging. And there are plenty of such types in my family. We’re all in the same boat in that regard.

      And so I thank you for continuing to thump. I don’t always agree but I know who my friends are.

  3. Great article Brad! The majority of the so-called Christian pastors are more afraid of loosing their tax-exempt status than having to stand before God and answer to why they refused to “thump it” on the subject of homosexuality. Even after the Supreme Court’s ruling came down, I listened to some pastors (including my own) via video streaming address it by tip toeing around the subject in their Wednesday and Sunday sermons without even mentioning the words same-sex or homosexuality. It is a joke. What are these supposedly men of God afraid of? There is no wonder the world is in the current state. I lay ALL the blame at the foot of the church!

    • Timothy Lane says:

      I think it was Erick Erickson who said that any pastor who didn’t sermonize against the Kennedy decision on the Sunday after it was announced wasn’t worth listening to.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      I’m for religious freedom…within the bounds of the generally Judeo-Christian worldview. That is, I don’t believe in the kind of “religious freedom” so many have imparted to Islam which is a bully religion.

      Our ideas of freedom of religion did not have Islam in mind, no more than the idea of political freedom had Nazism in mind. We need not tolerate the intolerant.

      And I understand some of the ways our evil president and his party (and ideological cohorts) wish to undermine it — including threatening churches with their tax exempt status. This evil should be fought. And to call it anything less is to lose the war by not understanding one’s enemy.

      That said, Paul did not have tax exempt status when he spread the Gospel far and wide. Instead, he often met dangerous opposition that he had to craftily skirt around as best he could while maintaining his integrity. (Wise as a serpent. Harmless as a dove.)

      And although St. Francis was required to get permission for his Order from the Pope and his bureaucracy, a tax-exempt status had nothing at all to do with his willingness or ability to preach the Gospel.

      I’m a cranky iconoclast who should not be looked to for the direction of the church. But I’ve got eyes with which to see. And what “church” has become is a weak transaction between a minister and the congregation that he must hold much like Johnny Carson must have tried to hold his audience between commercial breaks. Religion is becoming little more than a chicken franchise with candles and stained glass. It’s a transaction, a commoditization of spirituality.

      I will be shouted down, in particular, by Catholics when I say that Christian teaching really ought to return to its roots when it was somewhat underground. Return to private homes where the pastors are part-time (certainly receiving due support where needed, financially or otherwise). Church has become like going to the movies instead of a way of life.

      I lay ALL the blame at the foot of the church!

      Well, I don’t assume that you share my ideas, Patricia. But it’s hard to argue with that.

      • Timothy Lane says:

        The reason for the tax exemption for churches is so that the state can’t tax them out of resistance. (“The power to tax is the power to destroy.”) One can reasonably argue that it only applies to churches and other explicitly religious institutions, not to private businesses owned by churches.

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