Movie Review: Star Wars – The Twilight Awakens

ForceAwakensby Brad Nelson12/31/15
It’s no fun watching an old friend get old…and I’m not talking about Carrie Fisher. Hey, we’re all headed toward the Death Star trash compactor. The good news is that this movie isn’t as bad as I thought it would be. The bad news is, it’s nothing new. It’s a reboot of A New Hope with a few elements of V or VI thrown in.

Star Wars, as a concept, certainly has a “look” and a certain motif about it. I wouldn’t expect a Star Wars movie to depart from it excessively. But it’s one thing to learn, say, a dozen or so words in the vernacular and use them creatively. It’s another thing to say the same thing using those same twelve words, perhaps mixing up the order a bit.

If you’d never heard of Star Wars, this movie would be new to you, perhaps even entertaining. You might wonder about who those old farts were (Fisher and Ford), but you could relate to the mindless action and the special effects that have climbed the mountain once again and crowded out any reason to have characters or even character development, let alone a novel plot.

The title of this review comes from an apt review I read over at IMDB.com. A fellow wrote:

At no point, AT LITERALLY NO POINT, did I feel sad, frustrated, anxious, worried, or exhilarated during its belabored two hours and sixteen minutes. The characters felt like they could be potentially cloned from any PG-13 teen movie you’ve seen since Twilight hijacked the world and forced it’s twisted, disgusting version of acceptable adolescent stereotypes upon us. You could almost swap out the light-sabers, tie-fighters, and storm troopers and you’d have a great sequel to whatever the hell number Hunger Games we’re on these days (because that’s how interesting the rest of the plot was).

Despite the reboot of Star Wars: A New Hope, which this movie is, it still might have worked had the main characters (Rey, the ass-kicking female, and Finn, the black, goofy, clearly Americanized yute ostensibly playing a character from a “galaxy far, far away”)  been anything but Twilightish characters. Both of these actors are misplaced.

John Boyega, as Finn, is simply awful. But Daisy Ridley as Rey doesn’t even rate awful. She’s not awful, no more than celery, cucumbers, or rice paper are awful. They’re just not particularly filling. She reminded me of a stand-in extra who was the beneficiary of a case of mistaken identity and took the place of the real actor. I don’t make movies for a living, but I think they have stand-ins who do some of the work on set (such as standing-in for lighting and sound checks, etc) so that the primary actors can sit in their trailers eating M&Ms. The stand-in is someone who is about the same height, etc., so they are useful in this regard, but are not there for their acting ability in any way, shape, of form. They’re just taking up space.

It’s difficult to criticize any particular part of this movie, because if I did so I would be criticizing one of my all-time favorite movies: Star Wars: A New Hope. There is hardly a scene in The Force Awakens that isn’t a clone of this movie in some way. So I can’t trash the specific scenes, for they are remakes of the original for all intents and purposes.

But all of these scenes do not add up to much of a story, at least a proper Star Wars story. But there’s nothing out of place compared to a typical action movie these days where the plot and characters are rice-paper thin and the special effects and explosions are gargantuan. For the generations who accept this as good, they will not understand my criticisms any more than someone who thinks Dick-and-Jane books are great literature because they have never heard of Shakespeare.

Even so, even despite the cloning of A New Hope, it would have worked better had the cloning been more authentic. In The Force Awakens, the main evil guy is also masked, as was Darth Vader in A New Hope, although both wore different types of masks. But as one reviewer quipped, in the case of Kylo Ren — the masked antagonist of The Force Awakens — he looks better with the mask on. Despite the rather cheesy synthesized villain voice he’s given when his mask is donned, at least he projects evil. With the mask off, this dude looks like he just walked off a daytime soap opera and is heading for the hair dresser to work on his curls. In today’s girl-i-fied version of men, perhaps he’s considered dangerous looking. But to me, it looked like he might cry at any moment.

What ultimately saves this movie from circling the drain completely is a credible performance by Harrison Ford as Han Solo. No, he’s not given very good dialogue to work with. Yes, of course, he says yet again “I have a bad feeling about this.” But quite unlike his horrible walk-through performance in Crystal Skull, he does get into character in this one as Han Solo. You do get a little bit of the old Star Wars mojo now and again, almost despite itself.

Had they jettisoned the awful characters of Rey, Finn, and Kylo Ren, this might have worked as a Han Solo movie. But it certainly doesn’t work as a Princess Leia movie. Sadly, Carrie Fisher was not able to evoke even an inkling of that beloved character. And you get a whiff of C-3PO and R2D2, but they are cameo appearances, at best, and having nothing to do with the plot. And I understand that most Star Wars droids do little more than squeak and belch beeps. But there was something about the squeaking and beeping of R2D2 in the original trilogy that, while annoying at times, generally worked. But his stand-in is a roly-poly type of droid — more practical though this type of locomotion may be across Tatooine sands. However, there is little to no personality there…even for a droid.

This movie is like a retrovirus. It has masked itself in the outer shell of the Star Wars motif. But inside there is no soul. There is no grand story to care about. The Force, despite being featured in the title, is not center stage, nor is it explored in any depth at all.

And I really thought going into this film that the most annoying part of the picture would be Daisy Ridley as Rey, yet again another ass-kicking female. And although she and John Boyega as Finn do the now stereotypical sex swap (he’s helpless and clueless, she’s a protective and smart ass-kicker), the largest disappointment was that this movie offered almost nothing new. It had a Death Star. It had a shield generator that had to be taken out. There was a fighter run down a Death Star alley. You can count the reboot elements as you go. There is almost no scene that is original.

Still, given all that, the one scene — and only one scene — that tickled my fancy a bit was when a squadron of X-Wing fighters swooped in to kick a little Stormtrooper ass. I thought the scene (which was near the end of the movie) had more mojo because I expected Luke Skywalker to finally make his appearance. (He didn’t.) But for whatever reason, that squadron of X-Wings evoked the mojo of Star Wars more than anything else in this film.

But it was a fleeting moment. There is at least one surprise in this, but even this is handled badly. The sad thing isn’t so much that this wasn’t a good continuation of Star Wars. I never expected it to be. But it is certainly sad that people who are so soulless can make so much money from relative junk. Oh well.


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34 Responses to Movie Review: Star Wars – The Twilight Awakens

  1. Timothy Lane says:

    I heard that this was extremely derivative, primarily of the first movie. Like you I enjoyed the original and saw it several times, but seeing it redone for the sake of the diversity crowd (a female Skywalker and black male Leia, in effect) is obviously of no interest to me. But I will say that cucumbers and celery have their place in a variety of foods (and not just salads, at least in the case of celery), though they certainly would never be the heart of a meal.

    And a nitpick on the quote from the review, an error I’m seeing very frequently lately: “it’s” is a contraction of “it is”, whereas “its” is the possessive case of “it”.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      a female Skywalker and black male Leia, in effect

      Haha. I wish I had written it that way in my review.

      Even then, I would have accepted a female Skywalker. That would have meant that she was playing a character with some heart and depth. Neither Mark Hamill nor Carrie Fisher were known quantities. Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness certainly were. But both newbies were brilliant bits of casting. Although Fisher plays a more one-dimensional “cross female” type of character, she does play it well. And Hamill…I still don’t know how he evoked that sense of innocence without looking like a puppy from a Disney animal picture. His unfamiliarity certainly helped in this regard because we were learning about him just as he was learning about the wider world outside his moisture farm.

      Luke wasn’t perfect. He made mistakes. He didn’t always do or say the perfect thing. He was in no way necessarily on a character arc toward Jedidom. But he had a good heart. He wanted to do well. He wanted to do justice. Most of all, he wanted a little adventure.

      You get absolutely none of that from Rey. Seriously. There is no depth to her character. You know as much about the roly-poly droid as you do her. It’s a horrible movie in this regard. Perhaps it’s an offense to celery to say that most of the characters in this movie had as little substance for I can make some damn fine soup with celery as one of the main ingredients. You couldn’t even make gruel with the personalities of the main characters in The Force Awakens.

      And yet even though I might hope to taste steak when someone slips me a piece of celery, I don’t hate the celery. Celery is good. I like it. In the same vein, I don’t hate The Force Awakens because it’s not Star Wars. It’s as good or bad as any other thoughtless, low-brow, 13-year-old-oriented juvenile movie. But it’s not steak.

      But neither is it the rotten meat of The Phantom Menace, Jar Jar Binks, and the rest of that prequel. As truly awful as John Boyega is as Finn whose one acting style seems to be to stretch out his face a la James Earl Jones in his transformation into a snake in one of the Conan movies, there is nothing in The Force Awakens to equal Jar Jar. And that’s about the best I can say about for it.

      • Timothy Lane says:

        As long as we’re talking gruel, perhaps they can use the actors in a remake of the musical Oliver!. But perhaps the Widow Corny would have to be given a more important role.

  2. Tom Riehl Tom Riehl says:

    Brad, I’m a bit less negative about this movie in general. The faults that you described are irksome but not deadly. They are venial sins, as opposed to the mortal sins of Jar-Jar and Hayden Christensen . The casting picks for the dark transsexual Leia and the de rigueur lead butt-kicker were relative unknowns, and I’ll bet the moguls hoped for unanticipated magic from these two, as in days of yore. And, let’s, or lets, not forget that real talent like Harrison Ford or Tom Cruise is rare, so I’m not overly critical in that respect. The writing only sucked a little, in contrast to most current blockbusters. Only Marvel does it right.

    The bottom line is that I’ll be buying the BD and lining the pockets of these rascals even more. My wife and I kinda liked the new droid, too. The acetylene torch thumbs-up was precious.

    Hunger Games is in a league of its own, and I enjoyed it for what it is, not as the last great hope for mankind, as some reviewers think. I only bring this series up because at least Jennifer Lawrence transmits real anger and believable ferocity. Rey, not so much.

    Happy New Year, all Stubborn Ones! I smell positive change in the air. P.T. Barnum, that most beloved oracle, was correct in his signature quote.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      I’ve read quite a few reviews of The Force Awakens since writing my own. I must say, a lot of people have been harsher than I was. I meant to tone mine down a little, for we don’t live and die by movies. Yeah, it sucks to see more cultural Vandals spoil something good, but life goes on. Somewhere out there is another George Lucas who will tell a good story and create another artistic blockbuster instead of what we have here, a carefully crafted commercial blockbuster aimed, at best, at juveniles or the juvenile taste.

      Still, I’m impressed that so many have diagnosed the problem: lack of story and character development, replaced by an orgy of special effects and little but juvenile dialogue and acting. It’s always comforting to know that there are many people out there who have not gone quietly into that cinematic good night. There are people who remember what quality is.

      They are venial sins, as opposed to the mortal sins of Jar-Jar and Hayden Christensen .

      I agree, Tom. I admit that although I was bored about 30 minutes into this movie, I was not as deeply offended as I was with Jar Jar Binks (LOL…they refer to the director as Jar Jar Abrams now), Hayden Christensen, or the awful casting of Jake Lord as young Anakin.

      Yes, in essence, it’s nice that the film makers didn’t leave a steaming pile of crap on our front stoop. What they left, however, was rice paper…a shallow, thin, non-nutritious vapid substance. There is no Star Wars story here. There is almost no character development. The Force as a concept is basically non-existent. The heroes’ journey is gone. The entire character development of Rey, such as it is, consisted of her not selling a droid for food. (Are droids really something more than machines?)

      Regarding the leads, one criticism I read that I thought was spot on was that for the first time, Star Wars has become an affirmative action film: we have a black, a hispanic, and a female in the leads. It was not “The Force” at the center of this movie but Cultural Marxism.

      I’m not sure why you’d buy this in Blu Rey, Tom. To each his own. But the movie is certainly good for a laugh. Again, there is no Star Wars story here. There is no journey being made. The Force is not a factor. It’s ludicrous, for instance, that a sanitation worker Stormtrooper is able to pick up a light saber for the first time and best, or nearly best, this movie’s equivalent of Darth Vader.

      And Rey’s journey to her Jedi powers happens in an instant. I guess Jedis don’t need years of training…just a moment to close one’s eyes and “feel” the Force. This is the worst kind of juvenile writing and it’s always disappointing that more people don’t have higher expectations.

      • Tom Riehl Tom Riehl says:

        I agree with everything you say, Brad. I only watch movies such as this when I’m in the mood for mind rot and no intellectual challenges. May the farce be with me.

      • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

        And Rey’s journey to her Jedi powers happens in an instant. I guess Jedis don’t need years of training…just a moment to close one’s eyes and “feel” the Force

        Silly you! Didn’t you know that women are more “in touch” with their inner being so it is much easier for them to connect with the force than those out-of-touch men who are so confused by their emotions.

        • Tom Riehl Tom Riehl says:

          I’m officially offended.

          • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

            Official offense noted and filed. (Sorry, I don’t know how to do one of those Smiley Faces)

            The link below, makes Brad’s critique seem generous and my comments innocuous.

            http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/31/the-force-awakens-is-the-worst-thing-ever/

            • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

              Well, a bit more rant than a review…something I was trying to avoid. But his points regarding “girl power” are spot-on. What I put down to a lack of character development the Cultural Marxist types would see as the Grand Exposition of True Essence…sort of like the idea of Long John Silver having an eye patch and a parrot on his shoulder…the very essence of a character…of a caricature, that is.

              And caricatures aren’t bad things, per se. John Wayne certainly played a certain “type.” But his type was backed up by believability. Had he climbed into an anachronistic jet fighter in, say, The Searchers (much faster than a horse), and piloted it instantly and masterfully through the gullies and canyons of Monument Valley in search of his niece, we might not have laughed at the Duke (goodness forbid), but we would have recognized something was very seriously wrong.

              Which brings me right back to what I think is the true organizing Force of this movie: undeveloped, unrefined tastes. Juvenilism. And when I call The Force Awakens an expression of a juvenile culture, I’m not using hyperbole.

              One of the most instructive moments in this movie regarding this is when the clone warrior (sort of a clone of the bad acting of Hayden Christensen, not an actual Clone), Aldo Ray (sorry…I mean Kylo Ren..yet another bad-guy in a mask…although he had no need of it for breathing purposes as Anakin did) has a temper tantrum on the bridge of his ship and takes a light saber to the control panels and tears them up pretty good.

              Contrast that with the slow burn that Darth Vader does on the Death Star when Admiral Motti talks some trash about The Force, using such provocative words as “sorcerer’s ways” to Vader. Suddenly Motti finds it a little difficult to breath.

              And one of the supreme moments of either V or VI is when Luke escapes his father. The newly-appointed admiral on Vader’s command ship then has to tell Vader the bad news. He had (I believe) earlier seen his predecessor killed by Vader for having similar news. Vader just shrugs…perhaps giving you the first inkling that Vader is having some sentimental thoughts about his son. Perhaps Luke’s escape is not just a dreaded thing for him right at that moment. It perhaps delays something he does find to be an unpleasant task. But it would have been a cringe-worthy thing indeed if he had thrown a child-like temper tantrum.

              Whatever the case may be, imagine Vader going ballistic and having a 10-year-old temper tantrum. It was out of place then. And, to me, it was out of place for Kylo Ren to do so. Yet does anyone see this as out of place anymore? Have we all acclimated to the juvenile culture?

              Thanks for the link, Mr. Kung. That was a most enjoyable read. Smiley faces are made by typing (excluding the quote marks) a “:” [colon] and a “)” [right parenthesis] together with no space between them. Like this: 🙂 But since these things are over-used and somewhat juvenile, you could skip learning them altogether and let your writing do the talking for you. It’s more work but good practice. 😉

              • Timothy Lane says:

                One important difference between Vader getting angry and Ken doing so is that the former would punish the actual target (“Apology accepted, Captain” from The Empire Strikes Back), e.g.) and even accepts having his anger in the original halted by Grand Moff Tarkin. But Ken, evidently (I have no idea when we’ll see The Force Awakens), is angry at everyone and everything — like an Occupier or Black Shakedowns Matter activist. Or a jihadist.

              • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

                Contrast that with the slow burn that Darth Vader does on the Death Star when Admiral Motti talks some trash about The Force, using such provocative words as “sorcerer’s ways” to Vader. Suddenly Motti finds it a little difficult to breath.

                “I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

                This is the best scene in the whole series, in my opinion. It’s the combination of the controlled, somewhat sarcastic, voice with the small twist of Vader’s crooked finger and extended thumb that does it.

  3. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    “Apology accepted, Captain”

    You just reminded me, Tim, that there is almost no wit in The Force Awakens. Yes, Han creaks out the creaky old line “I have a bad feeling about this.” But the dialogue is mostly…well…juvenile and undevelopd. But that “apology accepted” line is one of the jewels of the original trilogy.

    Yes, Aldo Ray (Kylo Ren…whatevvah) was like an Occupier. Can’t you just hear him leading the chorus of “First Order lives matter!”? Sheesh.

  4. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    This is the best scene in the whole series, in my opinion.

    In other words, Mr. Kung, instead of throwing strained peas against the wall from his highchair, someone had learned the art of drama, wit, understatement, and evoking interesting character traits. (What we used to call “making a movie”.)

    Listen, I realize that movies have always been about making money to a large extent. Often movie moguls and producers — even in the Golden Age of Hollywood — have tended to look down upon popular tastes. The saying was often that they’d rather make money than win an Oscar. So making your main villain act like a typical yute might make good financial sense.

    But the reality is, if you tell a good story, have good characters enlivened by good actors, have some compelling settings and nice camera work, and do enough of the technical stuff right, you will make an awful lot of money and perhaps win an Oscar or two as well.

    Sure, there were probably some people who marveled at the original Star Wars: A New Hope because of the special effects. But I think often this was because many people haven’t developed the skill (and it is a skill, one I am constantly working on) to talk about other aspects that made the movie good. They know what they like, but I think one of the easiest things to talk about is “the cool special effects” rather than the essence of Star Wars which Joseph Campbell talked about (in collusion with George Lucas) which was the hero’s journey — a wonderfully iconic and human thing.

    There is no hero’s journey in The Force Awakens. It just a jumble of actions scenes spliced together in the reel. It is, at most, what James Delingpole wonderfully described as a mindless caricature of “girl power,” at least in regards to the main character. No wonder I thought she was so paper thin.

    And lest I be dismissed an a misogynist, I’m not against girl-power, per se. It just has to be believable. Rey (played by actress Daisy Ridley) was no Linda Hamilton in Terminator nor a Sigourney Weaver in Alien. I have never criticized these films for having a strong female character. I only insist that the characters be believable.

    What you get in The Force Awakens is little more than the shorthand code for “girl power.” And that’s being very generous indeed, for that would then mean that the movie makers did indeed have a point and didn’t simply lack skill or have undeveloped juvenile taste as is my main criticism. Yes, one could say that going with the stupid “girl power” shtick is the display of juvenile taste. I won’t argue with you there.

    But this is no hero’s journey. We don’t care about Rey. We know nothing about her. She doesn’t develop her skills and, more importantly, the motivation to use them (for justice, revenge, adventure, or whatever). For all the depth of her character (and bland acting), they might have simply used a stick figure and saved more budget for the one thing these movie producers generally do well: special effects.

    • Timothy Lane says:

      It may be belated, but one of my favorite humorous scenes in the original movie comes when Han Solo is trying to keep the stormtroopers from showing up while Luke rescues Leia in the prison. He invented a crisis, then had to explain why no one should show up, finally ending with, “Everything’s fine . . . I’m fine . . . how are you?”

      Another good item actually came in a TV show in which the robots discussed the movie. At one point, C3P0 was perhaps a bit miffed at being condescended to, wondering where the heroes would have been without the robots. R2D2 beeps something, and C3P0 responds, “You’re right — they’d still be in the trash compactor.” Someone in that movie had a good sense of humor.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        LOL. That was a very good scene and a clumsy comment from Solo. And it fit with Han Solo’s character. He was a doer not a talker. However, Lando Calrissian was both a rogue (like Solo) and a smooth talker. Both were undeniably men. But from the sounds of it, all the men in this newest pseudo-Star-Wars film are all beta-males.

        I’ll wait until this comes to RedBox for $1.50 if I must watch it as Your Cultural Commenter. But, sheesh, unless I have my brother there to mock it along with me, I don’t know that I could do it.

        Dennis Prager says there are two kinds of people in the world: the decent and the indecent. There’s a lot of truth to that. But regarding movies, there are two kinds of viewers: Those who were shocked and saddened when the Giant Tree fell in “Avatar.” And then there were those like me who laughed and eye-rolled all the way through this piece of Progressive trash.

        I’ve never been thrown out of a movie by an usher. Most of my mocking comes in my home theatre. This is because I just don’t have the stamina to sit through stupidity like a sheep as most others do. And my main virtue is (a rare one, it seems) that, having watched a bad movie, I feel no need to call it good simply to justify the price I’d paid to see it (whether theatre ticket or RedBox).

        What surprised the hell out of me long ago was that people, especially with these franchise movies, are so afraid to call a turd a turd. It’s as if to do so was to somehow put them in a very unsafe space, whether outside the rest of the crap-settling culture and/or in the realization that they had just wasted ten dollars.

        It sounds as if this Star Wars is so bad you’d be better off just setting a ten-dollar bill on fire outside the theatre and then walking away to do something more productive and fun. Why people think they have to pay to see this junk is beyond me.

        • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

          But regarding movies, there are two kinds of viewers: Those who were shocked and saddened when the Giant Tree fell in “Avatar.” And then there were those like me who laughed and eye-rolled all the way through this piece of Progressive trash.

          I would add a third kind, i.e. those viewers who have sense enough not to view most of the rubbish spewed out by Hollywood these days. (Over the last 20 years, at least.)

  5. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    I wonder if this qualifies as the corruption of youth or just the final, deadly (to art) inculcation of bad taste. But I’ll be watching an NFL game long before I ever watch this latest piece of Star Wars trash. Jack Kerwick gives an overview of the movie: The Last Jedi: The First Anti-Star Wars, Star Wars Movie

    • Timothy Lane says:

      Sounds like George Lucas made a big mistake selling the franchise to Disney. But he got a lot of money out of it, and Disney got a lot of money out of the movies. In Hollywood, nothing else really matters today.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        Lucas likely couldn’t have cared less what Disney was going to do with it. He got his money. Still, I’d be shocked if he didn’t have second thoughts after seeing that Disney is now actively shitting on his entire concept.

        • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

          I was thinking the same thing.

          • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

            This is one guy’s opinion. Sounds like he belongs here:

            I saw the film and was immediately struck by the political correctness, the feminism and the anti-capitalism. Freeing animals while child slaves go unnoticed. Emasculating virtually every male character. And that “burn down all that came before” attitude that’s so reminiscent of progressive political thought when it comes to preserving our traditions and values. Paying money to have left-wing politics shoved in my face was frankly disgusting to me.

            • Timothy Lane says:

              Unfortunately, that increasingly is what we get out of Hollywood. There are exceptions, but I doubt any of them ever work with Disney. I gather old Walt had very different views, but they no longer matter. Perhaps we could generate a lot of power from his body spinning its grave — or did he do something different with his body after death?

              • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

                The following is going to be a mean-spirited remark, so you have been warned.

                What gets me about these after-the-fact comments (and the one I posted above seems like someone with his eyes wide open) is that they are a day late and a dollar short (perhaps not as wide open as they should be). Anyone who has watched any of this new series of Star War saw the trash it was becoming. Anyone with sense should have withheld their dollars (as I have) until they heard more about this new movie.

                But people are sucked into Star Wars now like it is a civic religion, never matter that the Jedi are being eradicated. Instead of withholding their dollars (the sensible thing…reward the good stuff only), they become a part of the problem and then complain about it afterward.

                Thus conservatism is useless as a philosophical (even an aesthetic) approach if not applied. Don’t like Disney shitting on Star Wars? Then write them a nasty letter while withholding your money.

              • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

                Anyone with sense should have withheld their dollars (as I have) until they heard more about this new movie.

                I had the same feeling yesterday when I read that guy’s comment. In fact, the thought which ran through my mind was “Dumb ass. Why did you go in the first place? You must have had an idea of what the film would be like.”

              • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

                Now that was truly mean-spirited, Mr. Kung. How dare you hold people to realistic standards of conduct.

                I think people are still wowed by the original Star Wars glory and are hoping to recapture it. Whether or not the Vandals at Disney are taking these suckers for a ride or creating a new audience (and expectations) for the Star Wars franchise is unknown to me. Part of me insists that such bad taste and bad motives can’t be rewarded forever. Another part remembers that this bilking of the tasteless and otherwise gullible has been going on for some time.

  6. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    I watched “The Last Jedi” today. I’ll spare you the usual rants. Much of this comes down to a degraded sense of movie taste by today’s yutes. They think it is good, although the reduced audiences to the latest “Solo” may be a sign that many are catching on that these latter Star Wars movies are pretty much junk.

    The main problem with this latest series of Star Wars movies could be summed up as: motion without meaning. There is a lot of action and little of it builds to an kind of coherent story.

    The second flaw with these movies is the lack of good characters played by good actors. Daisy Ridley as Rey has no other qualification other than that she’s a woman. Adam Driver as Kylo Ren is equally vapid. Laura Dern, although good in Jurassic Park and many other movies is horrible in this. Other than Mark Hamill, there is not one performance in “The Last Jedi” that is even slightly commendable.

    The third and most fatal flaw is one that is bittersweet. I don’t like hating what I love most. And what I love most is the original trilogy. What they have done in this latest series of films is simply to recycle the stories (even down to individual scenes) with lesser actors, lesser dialog, and in a script that is generally morally and cinematically incoherent.

    More later. But I’m still mourning this lost franchise.

    • Timothy Lane says:

      Sounds like a late friend’s reaction to the movie When Worlds Collide. He was a devoted fan of the book and of author Philip Wylie (and got me to buy a bunch of his books). Then he stayed up late to see the movie — and at the end he cried over how badly the movie stacked up to the book, and of the time he wasted staying up to see it.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        For those nostalgic for the original trilogy, it’s a chance to see Luke, Leia, Chewwy, R2D2, and C-3P0 again.

        Carrie Fisher did not age well, but we all knew that. But the main problem is she’s misused. She spends most of her time giving meaningless lines from the shop-room floor, if you will. (She’s just always standing somewhere and not doing anything.) She could have been given a much more dignified role. She could have been on a mission as ambassador trying to strengthen political alliances or something — something much more in line with her Star Wars stature. Merely calling her “general” once in a while doesn’t do it. She’s given nothing important to do. And for some godforsaken reason, what little oxygen there was in the room for making command decisions is sucked up by the horrible performance of Laura Dern.

        But the main problem is that Girl Power is just not enough to make a satisfying movie for me. And that is precisely the function of the central Rey character which is why no one at Disney cared whether she could act or not.

        I’d heard that Luke shits all over the Jedi mythology from reviews I had read. It’s not that bad. He’s just turned into a bitter old man who thinks the Jedi have had their day. (Be he gives no mind to who then would oppose the dark Jedi.) There’s an essence there that could have been interesting in the hands of a good storyteller. Even the mostly bland actors could have been made more interesting if given a good story. After all, neither Fisher nor Hammill are necessarily brilliant actors (but their simple authenticity more than made up for this).

        But there is no good storyteller in this. The dialogue is bland. There’s even one cringe-worthy scene where a grown man gets down on his knees and hugs his droid because he thought he’d lost it. How emasculating. Luke loved his droids but never did he display anything like this strange character of Poe who otherwise at least had the attribute of being nondescript.

  7. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    As I already knew, feminism ruined Star Wars. Specifically, Kathleen Kennedy and crew have specifically aimed to create Supergirl out of Star Wars and eradicate the existing themes.

    Disney Puts Star Wars Spinoffs On Hold After Solo Tanks, But The True Blame Lies With The Main Films

    The problem isn’t necessarily with Solo or Rogue One, but with the main story. At this time, the Star Wars films currently being made with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm are a despicable mess laced with political messaging and nods to the cause du jour. The galaxy far, far away feels too close to home, and it contains all the most annoying parts of it.

    For one, many Star Wars fans find it odd that Daisy Ridley’s character “Rey” is somehow so powerful with the force that she can defeat everyone she comes across, be they a highly trained Kylo Ren (Adam Driver) or the most powerful Jedi living, Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) in single combat. Rey’s character is the ultimate Mary Sue who, if not for her supporting cast, would be a boring character. She can do all and defeat all. Her character arch is relatively shallow, and too often anticlimactic.

    And while J.J. Abrams’ “The Force Awakens” was essentially a predictable rehash of “A New Hope,” it was Rian Johnson’s “The Last Jedi” that really had fans heading for the exits. Horrible plot direction, shoe-horned in characters, and the heinous misuse of established characters had fans in a virtual riot. Luke Skywalker was nothing like the character we had grown up with, Rey was far more powerful than she had any right to be given her single day of training, and Admiral Holdo (Laura Dern) may be a ridiculous character I wish never existed on par with Jar Jar Binks.

    And…

    Also, as Ben Shapiro wrote accurately, much of the blame for the failure of the modern Star Wars films lies in its social justice adherent producer Kathleen Kennedy, who is so focused on creating strong female characters that she forgot to create good ones.

    What surprises me is that Star Wars fans (at least some of them, and enough of them) are staying away from the latest piece of revisionist, politically correct, feminist garbage. They are tired of Disney (and Lucas, for that matter) defecating on a much-loved movie series. From the Shaprio article on the subject:

    Why all this effort to blame the fans for the series’ troubles? Because we must never – ever, under any circumstances – blame Kathleen Kennedy. Kennedy, you see, is woke. The Lucasfilm story group is entirely female. Their goal, according to The New York Times: “They wanted to tell beautiful stories, fulfill the expectations of loyal fans and create meaningful female characters.” The Times gushes, “Today, the Lucasfilm story group is a diverse outlier in Hollywood: five of its members are people of color, and the team includes four women and seven men. … A new, unpublished analysis of Star Wars films shows striking progress in their representation of gender and race.”

    It took me about 5 seconds to out Rey as the girl-power token female whose job is was to put males in their place. The same with Jyn Erso in “Rogue One.” The point was to use Star Wars to create Supergirl, not to continue and extend the stories in the established Star Wars universe.

    • Timothy Lane says:

      If they had put those goals in that order — story first, pleasing the fans second, interesting female characters third (hey, I wouldn’t object to bringing in the Star Wars versions of Nile Etland and Telzey Amberdon) — it would have worked. The first two are basically what Lucas did, and it worked for him. He may have been more concerned with interesting non-humans third, but it often worked (e.g., R2D2 and C3P0, Chewbacca, Jabba the Hutt if only briefly) and the failures (Ewoks, Jar-Jar Binks) were survivable because they weren’t crucial.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        The thing I have since learned about Lucas — and this is acknowledged readily by some severely pro-Star Wars friends that I know — is that Lucas became (especially with I, II, and III) interested in selling toys and video games. This detracted from the series just as Kathleen’s man-hating feminism, which insisted that Star Wars must be emasculated and given over to girl-power to rule. Neither the dark nor light side of the force (as we see in this latest garbage movie) was a match for it.

        I won’t say that these new movies make me put Jar Jar Binks into perspective and almost feel nostalgic for him by comparison. I can’t go that far. Jar Jar should have been coaxed into an air lock by R2D2 and sucked out into the cold vacuum of space.

        But there is a case to be made that pandering to 9-year-olds is perhaps less egregious than pandering to grown feminists.

        There it is. The one and only defense (sort of) of Jar Jar Binks that you’ll ever read from me.

        I won’t even de rigueurize the topic by saying that had they cast a strong female who made sense within the context of the Star Wars story, such as Sigourney Weaver in Alien, I would have been pleased. That goes without saying. It’s ludicrous that we can’t criticize feminism without having to explain that we’re not women haters. And I’m just tired of that.

        Daisy Ridley is such an uncharismatic talentless hack that it was readily apparent that her main and only quality that mattered was girl power. And for that, you need only have a vagina and, I guess, be able to speak (with wooden precision) the social justice lines that are given to you.

        As much praise as there was for Rogue One, Felicity Jones as Jyn Erso was the exact same kind of cookie-cutter, girl-power character. Truth in advertising should have required the Star Wars posters to read: “May the Girl Power be with you.”

        Once again, StubbornThings is miles ahead of the curve in explaining this stuff. But it was pleasing to read a couple articles that at least scratched the surface on the issue.

        • Timothy Lane says:

          In other words, Lucas basically sold out what he had (which he probably never understood) for money (from toys). So the sell-out to Disney, which has ruined the franchise for the sake of social justice politics. But Lucas got his share already, and that’s all that matters to him. How Hollywood.

          • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

            Yes. Lucas sold out. Whatever boy-like joy he once found in recreating Saturday morning serials gave way to strict marketing.

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