Homosexuals Provoke Their Own Mass-Murder

by Brad Nelson6/12/16

Just as Trump has been blamed for provoking the violence of Leftist rent-a-mobs, so the homosexuals are responsible for provoking Islam. Homosexuals should therefore disband because their presence is offensive to advocates of the Religion of Peace.

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34 Responses to Homosexuals Provoke Their Own Mass-Murder

  1. Timothy Lane says:

    The usual story for “home-grown” terrorism: We allow some Muslims into the country and their children become radicalized and turn to jihad. It was the same thing, with a similarly high toll, in San Bernardino. The “provocation” in San Bernardino is unknown at present (other than the overpowering Hate that radical Muslims bear for Western civilization, especially Israel and America). The “provocation” in Orlando apparently was witnessing a mild homosexual act, and being repulsed. I don’t blame him for that reaction (I might react similarly), but mass murder is never the proper answer.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      The “provocation” in Orlando apparently was witnessing a mild homosexual act, and being repulsed.

      Oh, that’s surely just an excuse, a convenient pivot-point for this Muslim’s long-term hatred of Western Civilization which they see as corrupt (can’t blame them regarding certain aspects). So instead of writing about fags and kissing and all the unholy stuff that goes on, he shoots people. And that is Islam.

      I’d like to ask some of the libtard Islamic apologists if Nazism itself was wrong or if it was simply the case that some “lone wolf” extremists, unconnected with Nazism (somehow), were the problem. This tortured attempt at severing Islam from the result of that ideology is difficult. So far they’ve been able to fool themselves. If I’m a pole-smoking active homosexual who frequented gay bars and stuff, at this point does my own hatred for Christians trump any other consideration, including self-preservation?

      Probably.

  2. Steve Lancaster says:

    Florida is a shall issue state and ccw is easy to get. However, this thug evidently thought this through and determined one place where he would not be opposed by an armed citizen, a default no guns zone.

    • Timothy Lane says:

      I don’t know if the night club made it a principle to allow only disarmed patrons (unless they’re Muslims bent on murder), but rather obviously no one (patron or staff) seems to have been armed except for the thug.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      No doubt an unarmed group of enemies of The Religion of Peace® makes it a more attractive target. But homosexuals, as with Christians and Jews, are prime enemies of The Religion of Peace®. I think tactical considerations for a single Jihadist means that unarmed enemies of The Religion of Peace® is preferable in terms of bang-for-buck. But The Religion of Peace® is fully able and willing to take on armed soldiers as they typically do in Israel.

      One could say the point of killing homosexuals is to sate anger over seeing two men kiss or whatever. But I’ve actually been surprised at how effective this kind of terror is. Jihadists must be laughing themselves silly. Look at Europe where they have practically outlawed criticism of Islam even while Islam continues to murder them and impose its barbaric and backward laws.

      So they kill a few dozen homosexuals. The Left might make anti-gun gains from this. But the sure bet is that The Religion of Peace® will forward its cause in America as more people find themselves (out of fear or whatever) backing down from criticism of Islam.

      Activism works. No, I don’t prescribe violence (unless in self-defense). But the only way conservatives can advance their agenda is to use incidents such as this to:

      A) Explain that Islam is not a religion of peace and that caving to Muslim sensibilities is a bad thing.

      B) Explaining that Islam and Western Culture do not mix, therefore all Muslim immigration should be halted.

      C) Explaining to homosexuals that, although Christians oppose the normalization of homosexuality, their real enemy is Islam. And one of the greatest apologists for Islam is the Democrat Party which homosexualities and other gender-carnival nihilists reflexively support. They are aiding and abetting their own murder. If I were a pole-smoker, I would prefer the light social stigma provided by Christians.

      But because the Pink Mafia is truly nihilistic in nature, there is no bargain they can’t make with the devil. What soul they have left has already been sold.

      • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

        So they kill a few dozen homosexuals. The Left might make anti-gun gains from this.

        Every war has its casualties. The death of a few deviants is a small price to pay for furtherance of the cause.

        You can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs.

        I am waiting for the Left’s equivalent of the “Horst-Wessel-Lied.” And they do have their own flag.

  3. Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

    There must be some kind of mistake here. I know that the deviant Left is happy to work with Muslims to destroy Western Civilization. But the Muslims are supposed to hold off killing the Leftists until Christian Civilization is kaput. Once that is done, the Left will destroy Islam and the world will have no religion and be a paradise.

    I know this because this is what the deviant Leftists have told me. Damn Muslim got off script.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      But the Muslims are supposed to hold off killing the Leftists until Christian Civilization is kaput.

      Mr. Kung, are you making light of over 50 murders? Of course not. Neither am I. Unlike the Left, despite the sins and bizarre behavior of certain groups, we recognize their basic humanity.

      It’s likely that the monstrosity of this act will not be exceeded by yet another coverup of Islam. But that coverup will have the trappings of monstrosity nonetheless. The Left aids and abets those who would murder their most strident members. Think of that.

      So if I express some eyebrow-raising cynicism, even callousness, about all this, you certainly know the context. They’ll go after guns. They’ll call this guy a “lone wolf,” not connected to Islam, proper, in any way. What they won’t do is see this man as another soldier of Islam, their Jihad arm.

      • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

        Brad,

        I am commenting on the complete cynicism and/or idiocy of the Left. These people are so insane or resentful that they can’t see past their own noses as regards the dangerous alliances they have entered into.

        I have been expecting this type of attack for some time. I think more will be coming. I don’t think the deviant Left will learn as their hate for their own culture is too great.

        As to what would happen if the deviant Left succeeded in destroying Western Culture with the help of Islam. One group likes to punish those who oppose them with in-your-face deviant sex and vulgarity. The other side likes to punish those who oppose them by chopping off their heads. I think I know which side would win.

        Wait until some Islamist’s daughter is molested by some perverted “non-binary” jerk in a girls bathroom.

      • Timothy Lane says:

        Indeed, we’re already seeing both. We have Slick Barry calling for gun control, we have talk of “automatic weapons” (which wouldn’t be legal, as Mateen’s AR-15 was), and even renewed talk of banning gun purchases by people on the “terrorist watch list” . They point out that Florida has very loose gun laws (as indeed it does), even as they ignore the much stricter laws that haven’t stopped mass shootings in California and Connecticut.

        I think I may have seen or heard some reference to the “lone wolf” theory as well. It will be hard even for liberals to deny some ISIS influence (if only because they’d lose credibility they don’t deserve anyway), but they’ll still call him a lone wolf — and carefully ignore the open homosexual display that apparently set him off.

        • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

          It will be interesting watching homosexuals squirm as they — to the extent that political syphilis hasn’t totally disabled their minds — try to reconcile their support of the Islam-loving Democrat Party with what just happened. The Democrat Party’s answer will be “gun control” not “Islam control.”

          If you’re a homosexual who frequents dens of carnal extravagance as a lifestyle, what would you do? Who would you support?

          Because the Democrat Party and its constituents have abandoned making normal moral choices, it is easy for them, even required of them, to turn the moral issue of Islam into a mere material issue of gun ownership. And if there is a moral thought it will be that all religion is bad. This will be a case of “religious extremism” with no attempt to distinguish between Quakers and ISIS.

          That’s funny, because this is coming from the freaks, fools, and finaglers who have invented over 50 varieties of gender out of thin air. And yet there is only one religion and it is the “extremist” one…usually Christian (whereby they will be known as a “Christian extremist” and you’ll not hear “Muslim extremist” as the Religion of Peace is whitewashed again as merely “religious extremist” or “lone wolf”).

          Secularism — the complete eradication of religious sentiment — is the goal of the Left. I doubt that homosexuals are capable or willing of distinguishing between Christianity (who simply verbally condemns homosexuality…sometimes, when they’re not also embracing it) and Islam (which says homosexuals should be killed in the worst possible way, and often does so via its Jihad arm).

          The Utopian world of the secular pole-smoker would be one with no guns, no religion…sort of like that John Lennon song. Nothing to die for. Just a carnal carnival 24/7. There would be tolerance of everything, including the intolerant as long as the intolerant are intolerant of your same enemies…even if you are one of them. But, hey, the Left is more than willing to pay the Death Tax of Islam on their way to destroying Western Civilization.

          We, however, know that when the dust clears, it will be Islam that will pick up the pieces. As we see particularly in Europe, once the radicals destroy the basis of Western Civilization, there is nothing to base your society on except power. But a multi-culti and wimpy secular power of the Leftist type will almost certainly be overcome by the more strident power of Islam as is actually happening right now in Europe. We don’t have to guess about these things. There is a laboratory in operation right now.

          • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

            It will be interesting watching homosexuals squirm as they — to the extent that political syphilis hasn’t totally disabled their minds — try to reconcile their support of the Islam-loving Democrat Party with what just happened. The Democrat Party’s answer will be “gun control” not “Islam control.”

            It appears the killer was a registered Democrat. His father also has strong ties to the Democrat Party.

          • Timothy Lane says:

            There are pro-gun homosexuals such as the Pink Pistols, though I don’t know if there is any organized homosexual opposition to Islamization this side of the late Pim Fortuyn. But it would be something the GOP could do — or at least Trump could.

      • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

        The Left aids and abets those who would murder their most strident members. Think of that.

        So if I express some eyebrow-raising cynicism, even callousness, about all this, you certainly know the context. They’ll go after guns. They’ll call this guy a “lone wolf,” not connected to Islam, proper, in any way. What they won’t do is see this man as another soldier of Islam, their Jihad arm.

        The Left is acting exactly as you predicted. They are cultural suicide bombers who are willing to die as long as they can take the West with them.

        • Timothy Lane says:

          Like their Muslim allies, they’re motivated by Hate — most especially hatred of Western civilization and its strongest exemplars today, America and Israel.

        • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

          Mr. Kung, with this horrific loss of life, social correctness, if not also political correctness, means we are supposed to limit ourselves to expressing grief. But let me give you a load:

          Thank god it wasn’t a bus full of school children, a clutch of nuns (do they come in clutches?…a murder of nuns?…a habit of nuns?), or a hospital. There’s an aspect of a gay club that is not commendable. We’re supposed to watch in jaw-dropping (if not also eyebrow-raising) glee, with warm-fuzzies throbbing through the body, as various “in support of” groups march in multi-colored “pride” (as I saw on cable TV while waiting in line at the bank) of those who were massacred by…by, a tornado, I guess. No one is really sure what happened. Apparently a gun might have jumped out of someone’s car and gone on a rampage. Or it was indeed just a tornado.

          What’s important is to show solidarity with those who were massacred. And although I don’t wish them death, it’s useful to remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis. It is said that God rained sulfur down on the cities and wiped them out. If that Orlando club wasn’t a suburb of Sodom, I don’t know what was.

          Which puts a quandary on Bible-believers: If God wasn’t too pleased with Orlando-like clubs, why condemn this Muslim? Wasn’t he doing God’s work? He certainly must have thought he was doing Allah’s work. And, really, he was certainly doing Mohammed’s work, at the very least.

          Whatever the case may be, I’ve noted how the social-correctness and uncritical support of, and solidarity with, those who were murdered is now standard amongst conservatives. We must be seen to grieve, share pain, etc., etc. Well, there’s an aspect of this where, as my mommy said (wink), if you’re out after midnight, you’re probably up to no good.

          I’m not blaming the victim. Oh, wait, I am. There’s something to be said for not frequenting Sodom, especially when you are almost certainly supportive of the party that is all for letting these Islamic animals into the country. So who do I weep for? And why?

          • Timothy Lane says:

            I also get the impression that, for one reason or another, the night club was a gun-free zone — which would be another rule the thug broke. He probably counted on this reliable liberalism — no one would be able to stoo him until the police came in force. One or two Pink Pistols might have stopped him long before the police did — if they were allowed to do so.

            • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

              I was listening to Lars Larson’s show the other night and he said that the club had an armed guard at the door…who later engaged the Jihadist. Lars was talking with a guest, I believe. I forget who. But they concluded (or he concluded) that an armed guard at the door is all well and good, but those up to no good know to take that guard out first thing.

              What was needed were armed citizens. Lars also noted that in many states you’re not allowed to carry a concealed weapon into any place that serves alcohol. So that’s a problem in terms of preventing a future Jihadist.

              Homosexuals should just come out and honestly say. “We hate Christians no matter what. But even though Muslims are far more deadly, we’re willing to pay the death tax because we are so wedded to out anti-Western, anti-Christian, anti-family, homosexual gender-bending agenda. And right now Muslims, like us, are seen as victims of big, bad, white, Western, straight, Christian males.”

              You’ll likely never hear that. But I think we can assume that is the mindset, or something very close to it. So how many tears should I shed or should I save them for someone else….like a kid in the hospital fighting cancer or something.

              • Timothy Lane says:

                You’ll never hear homosexuals say that because it would cost them the sympathy that has enabled them to triumph so far. Honesty never seems to serve liberalism well.

                The guard problem has also come up with regard to schools. A security guard will just be the first target, and then you have a large, undefended target.

              • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

                A security guard behind bullet-proof glass is a possible option. Given that the Left and Progressives are pro-crime, pro-perversion, pro-Jihad, and pro-general-destructiveness, we need to learn to live inside a bullet-proof society. No one is speaking this simple,. plain truth. We do that here. We get no thanks for it either.

          • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

            there’s an aspect of this where, as my mommy said (wink), if you’re out after midnight, you’re probably up to no good.

            I have heard something similar myself. And there is a good measure of truth to it. (Except for New Year’s Eve)

            I have been fascinated by the news coverage of this event.

            What is now happening is a good example of how a relatively small group of organized zealots can have an inordinate influence on society as a whole.

            I do not recall groups of government employees across the country having candle-light vigils after the people were shot in California a couple of months back. I do not remember the military having gatherings across the country either. Did marathon runners hold services across America after the Boston Bombers?

            But the deviant Left has come together and with the help of the media, which is full of the deviant Left, (am I being redundant?) floods the airwaves with “news” about this.

            Once a mad Muslim assaults a heterosexual bar, will there be special vigils by heterosexuals broadcast non-stop by the MSM? How about if a mad Muslim hits a Red Neck bar? Will the MSM broadcast candle-light vigils for those poor Red Necks? Will the president come out and preach to us how we must change the way we think about heterosexuals and Red Necks?

            Of course, the chances are that those Red Necks would have a few concealed weapons to hand. So maybe the mad Muslim would think twice about attacking such a venue.

            • Timothy Lane says:

              No, of course there would be no such concerns, partly because each attack desensitizes us. Note one interesting response to events: A pair of Chick-fil-A restaurants in Orlando actually opened on Sunday to supply free food for those waiting in line to donate blood. Bill De Blasio wouldn’t have done such a thing.

            • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

              The bottom line is that if you’re a Muslim, there’s very little downside to murdering Westerners in order to advance your cause. When you see Westerners falling all over themselves to blame everyone but the perpetrators, the Jihadists know a soft target when they see it. I’m still surprised it hasn’t been complete open season on us. Perhaps the NSA and such has done a fairly good job at prevention.

              Blame it on guns, blame it on Republicans, blame it on Christians, blame it on straight white people — if you’re a Muslim, this has to be music to your ears. And they’ve probably gotten over their amazement and have now come to expect this reaction.

              If you’re a Muslim, you can see the world aligning to your point of view. After all, even the victims of your Jihadism are blaming someone else. How could not Allah be on your side?

              We’re twisting in the wind in confusion while the Jihadists gather steam. Wait until they get atomic weapons. Oh, the useful idiots will still blame the Republicans, but because useful idiots tend to congregate in major urban centers, their numbers will be diminished. If you say that’s a heavy price to pay to get rid of liberals, you’re right. But remember that this is them doing it to themselves. Stay in farm country and watch the glow.

  4. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    Andy McCarthy, no useful idiot regarding Islam, writes:

    As I have argued before, while a categorical ban on Muslim immigration would be bad policy, our immigration law must distinguish between Islam the religion and Islamism, the sharia-supremacist political ideology, which tends to grow strong support wherever Muslims form a critical mass.

    That is a step up from denying Islam entirely. And McCarthy has been anything but a useful idiot for Islam. But this seems as illogical as any other prescription. We are to distinguish between the good Muslims and the bad Muslims and yet acknowledge that a critical mass of Muslims (apparently of whatever type) tend to grow the bad Muslims.

    Is it just me or is Andy McCarthy still hedging?

    Oddly, although we don’t agree with Islam regarding penalties for homosexuality, I think most conservatives would agree with this passage from Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi who McCarthy calls Sunni Islam’s most influential living sharia jurist:

    We must be aware that in regulating the sexual drive Islam has prohibited not only illicit sexual relations and all what leads to them, but also the sexual deviation known as homosexuality. This perverted act is a reversal of the natural order, a corruption of man’s sexuality, and a crime against the rights of females. (The same applies equally to the case of lesbianism.)

    The spread of this depraved practice in a society disrupts its natural life pattern and makes those who practice it slaves to their lusts, depriving them of decent taste, decent morals, and a decent manner of living.

    I agree with that. You may not, but I do. What parent who hasn’t bought into political correctness wants his son or daughter to take part in this dead-end lifestyle? What society isn’t coarsened by homosexuality, and that includes heterosexual sexual abandonment including adultery and prostitution?

    And while the Left will definitely use this act of Jihad as an argument against guns, many will likely sit around like Maggie Gallagher and kumbaya. This Jihadist mass-murder in Orlando is the perfect opportunity to score political, social, intellectual, and any other points you care to name, against Islam. Establishment Republicanism, if anything, means “Nice people don’t have divisive disagreements.” That attitude is waving the flag of surrender. Enter Trump.

    • Timothy Lane says:

      A lot of people simply cannot bring themselves to notice that the problem often isn’t the Muslim immigrants themselves, but their children — and especially the mosques that radicalize them. That may be the biggest problem we have to deal with regarding internal terrorism.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        I view Islam as an ever-flowing wave. Not every Muslim, not every age, is actively engaging in violent Jihad. But wherever Muslims go (a cultural Jihad at the very least) there will be violent Jihad.

        That the parents aren’t as radical as the yutes is welcome. This might be explained by various things. But none of those things are because the parents are more authentically Muslim. They might be back-sliders. They might be Cafeteria Muslims (as unfamiliar with their religion as many Christians are) and are picking and choosing how they wish to worship, something they can do in a free country like America where (most importantly) the percentage of Muslims is small.

        But as that percentage increases, the disease will spread. “Moderate” Islam is a myth. At best, you can get an occasional hiatus from Jihad, whether because they are consolidating gains or are a tiny minority in a country.

    • NAHALKIDES NAHALKIDES says:

      You’re right, Brad, McCarthy was hedging. Maybe his editors at NRO demand that from him – in their own editorial on the need to do something about Islamic terrorism, they pointedly failed to mention slowing or halting the immigration of Muslims into America – the people committing the terrorist acts, giving the terrorists aid and comfort, and in other ways failing to integrate into American society.

      The fact is that we have two choices – we can take the comparatively mild step of stopping Muslim immigration now, or we will be forced to take far more draconian and unpleasant measures later, probably after horrendous carnage, assuming we survive at all. (In fact it may already be too late for such mild policies to stop Islamic terrorism). If we don’t halt the influx (and put tremendous pressure on the Muslims already here to integrate), the level of terrorist violence will increase, the secular Left (as opposed to the Islamic Left) will do nothing in response, and so vigilante groups or people’s militias will spring up out of necessity. That would probably lead to a three-way civil war, and assuming Conservatives win it, there would be nothing to do but banish all remaining Muslims from our shores, stripping them of their U.S. citizenship if they refused to abjure Islam.

  5. Timothy Lane says:

    Curt Schilling had some very apt comments about the Orlando slaughter, reported at both the Blaze and the Daily Caller. Here’s a link to the former:

    Schilling Excoriates Gun Control Crowd in Wake of Orlando Terror Attack

    Is it too late to draft Schilling for President?

    • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

      I think Schilling went off the rails with this statement;

      Yes there are “Conservatives” who will talk about homosexuality as blasphemy and what not, but they’re as Christian as Ghengis Khan.

      Ghengis Khan? Another “Christian” who will not call a spade a spade.

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        I agree. And perhaps even worse, Mr. Kung. Schilling has razor-bladed ideas from actions when he says the rather stupid libertarianesque line:

        Real conservatives, honest to God Americans, don’t care who you are, who you sleep with who you marry or who you hate. We care about WHAT YOU DO to others.

        Real conservatives, Mr. Shilling, understand the relationship between ideas and actions. It matters what kind of ideas people have. You can try to live in this libertarian pseudo-liberal universe where you just declare “Only what you do matters,” but it doesn’t work.

        Of course, what people do matters. But there is something upstream from this. This Islamic Jihadist didn’t just wake up one day and forget that only what you do matters.

        But at least he has been willing to name the beast. I give him major credit for that. But he mixes in some really sloppy liberalism or libertarianism in there with it.

        And I used my dictatorial, ISIL-like powers to fix Timothy’s URL to shorten it.

        • Timothy Lane says:

          Well, I know of 3 people who publicly pointed out the truth of what happened in Orlando: Ted Cruz, Curt Schilling, and possibly Donald Trump (I don’t know if he’s made the point of Muslim hostility to the LGBT community). Cruz has fallen out, so would you prefer Trump or Schilling?

  6. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    Here’s a brilliant article by Mary Eberstadt. It is worth a read: The First Church of Secularism and Its Sexual Sacraments

    After you finish reading that it will be clear exactly why Kumbaya Christians are heretics. And if Christianity is read — if it’s how the world actually works — they are being more than just fools and useful idiots. They are undermining the most important ideas that humanity has.

    The gist of this First Church of Secularism is:

    The first commandment of this new secularist writ is that no sexual act between consenting adults is wrong. Two corollary imperatives are that whatever contributes to consenting sexual acts is an absolute good, and that anything interfering, or threatening to interfere, with consenting sexual acts is ipso facto wrong.

    The following quote was also, to me, a surprising section. But upon reading it, I knew she was spot-on:

    What also needs understanding is that pace the suspicion of some traditionalists, today’s secularist progressivism is not a nihilistic worldview. To the contrary: It embraces an alternative orthodoxy and a well-developed body of beliefs. The fundamental impulse leading to the penalizing of moral traditionalists today is not libertarian. It is instead neo-puritanical — that is, it is aimed at safeguarding its own body of revealed and developed truths, and at marginalizing, silencing, and punishing competitors.

    You can either have Biblical beliefs or you can have The Church of Secularism. These are two sets of diametrically opposed beliefs. And if you are for same-sex marriage because doing otherwise would be “judgmental,” you have caved to the tenets of The Church of Secularism and are not actually practicing Christianity, despite the trappings of the stained glass and cross.

    I’ll say the same thing to conservatives. You can’t be a conservative and be stridently for Donald Trump who is diametrically opposed to conservatism in nearly every way. You can surely vote against Hillary. I get that and support that idea. But there is no more coherence between being a Christian and supporting same-sex marriage than there is in being a Constitutional conservative and being for Trump.

    But such are our times. This is truly an outstanding article by a woman who shows a keen sense of logic. With so many men having gone pajama boy, there is lots of slack that women such as this must take up. And she did.

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