by Glenn Fairman11/20/16

Whatever the reason the cast of Hamilton gave for public consumption, the dressing down of Mike Pence was intended as a petulant display of public humiliation under the guise of haughty moral instruction. What in my lingo we call “sandbagging.” Since the Left view no distinction between the public and the private, they had no trouble engaging in a boorish breach of etiquette towards their “captive guest.” Similarly, If Hillary went into a Hobby Lobby and the employees gathered round and chided her over her anti-traditional values stance, it would be like that. This will not go well for Hamilton’s box office. Even in the worst of times, should a man pay from his own pocket to be mistreated?

In a more noble age, Pence would demand a duel with Hamilton to recover his honor, and we know how well that worked out.

Glenn Fairman writes from Highland, Ca.
About Author  Author Archive  Email

Have a blog post you want to share? Click here. • (1091 views)

Glenn Fairman

About Glenn Fairman

This entry was posted in Blog Post. Bookmark the permalink.

27 Responses to Hamilton

  1. Glenn Fairman says:

    Yet, the presumptive VP took the high ground. He did not take offense, and declared that this is what freedom looks like.

    Do you mean to say, sir, that you did not retreat as a quivering mass to your safe space to work out your trauma with a coloring book, some play-doh, and a pacifier? Taking the moral high ground can be different things to different men, depending on the quality of one’s soul.

  2. Timothy Lane says:

    I doubt it will affect their sales very much. How many conservatives go to the nearest big city to watch any play, much less Hamilton? Note that the cast is almost entirely minority (only a bad guy or two is white), and also that Pence was booed by the crowd when he came in. (Actually, I’m impressed that they recognized him.)

    • Glenn Fairman says:

      A lot of tourists from fly-over country go see a show on The Great White Way as a bucket list item. This is bad ju-ju, and the backers understand this intimately.

  3. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    “Tsk tak” has never been a winning argument for Republicans. Sitting back and showing that one is a gentleman and adult and expecting to be rewarded by the electorate for doing so in the face of insults by spoiled children has not been an effective strategy for the GOP.

    I’m not sure that Trump supporters know why they even voted for the man. But one thing I agree with is Trump’s instinct for fighting back instead of doing his best imitation of a punching bag. “This is what freedom looks like” is the same kind of ineffectual hogwash we’ve gotten from Establishment Republicans. I would rather he yelled out, “I know you are, but what I am?” Anything but just sitting there as the punching bag.

    Isn’t that what we voted for?

    • Timothy Lane says:

      It’s a matter of morality/ethics vs. political expediency. Decency says take it; political expediency says “Same to ya, ten-fold” (that’s my particular gloss on it, as a notorious hothead).

      • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

        Decency requires no one to be a punching bag. I’m not sure what he should have said, but at the very least he should have shouted out, “I thought we were here to see a play, not rehash the election.” Fine. Not all of us can think fast on our feet. But to come up the next day with something as vanilla and weak as “This is what freedom looks like?”

        First of all, that’s not strictly to the point. If you’re going to excuse any and all behavior as “This is what freedom looks like” then you might as well stay at home. Hitting back at these punks the next day, if only rhetorically, is what freedom looks like as well. I thought the Trump administration had the mandate for just that.

        • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

          I found Pence’s response rather weak. Who knows, perhaps he is trying to supply a counter-balance to the crazy things sometimes says. But one can go too far in mealy-mouthedness.

          How about replying with something like, “We intend to protect the rights of all Americans.”

          Apparently, the publicity seeking actor who spouted off is saying he has nothing to apologize for. The Left never surrenders.

          • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

            I wasn’t a Trump supporter (obviously). And he’s giving some signs of governing instead of continuing his lunatic child-like reign of petulance. “I told you so’s” work both ways and, boy, wouldn’t I love to be wrong about this guy. I’d love a strict-constructionist Supreme Court Justice. I’d love (as NRO pointed out recently) NPR to be defunded. (And about time if that ever happens.)

            But watching Pence’s weak response I feel like the central actor in one of those cliched slogans that goes something like, “I voted for Trump/Pence and all I got was this stupid t-shirt.”

            Still, talk is cheap. Actions will count more. We’ll wait and see. But Pence showed us precisely why he is on the bottom of the ticket, not the top.

        • Timothy Lane says:

          There was further information today at Town Hall. Pence was booed by a lot of people as he came in (no surprise, most of the audience would be Manhattan elites, and thus snowflakes), though he also got some cheers (probably mostly tourists). In addition, some of the snowflakes jeered at Pence during the play, thus interrupting the performance. And at the end, of course, one of the actors gave that silly lecture, which like most such liberal rants was long on paranoia and short on facts.

          Pence is right that this is what freedom looks like a lot of the time. But it’s also what idiocy and self-importance look like (admittedly, both qualities that are common in actors), and he would have done well to note that also.

          • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

            Pence is right that this is what freedom looks like a lot of the time.

            This is what surrender looks like. Look at it from my standpoint. Not only have I been long advising Republicans to show some backbone, but we just voted in a guy who has a mandate to do just that. “This is what freedom looks like” are the same old weasel words from the Republican Establishment who thought doing a beauty pose on the moral high ground would persuade anyone or set a good example. It was also a way for them to justify in their own minds to stay on the sidelines in the culture wars.

            What we need to do, within reasonable limits and with a certain amount of humor and proportional pugnaciousness, is give as good as we get. I look at this episode and I see the cast of Hamilton getting the better end of it. When all that your opponent has to say is “This is what freedom looks like,” you’ve basically had your opponent legitimize your behavior. Way to, Mike.

            • Timothy Lane says:

              My thought, and my comments were meant to suggest this, was that Pence should have been mildly critical. He could criticize the snowflakes who interrupted the play to boo him for being rude and self-important. He could also criticize the post-play rant as idiotic and paranoid. Both are true, and both could probably be pointed out without going crazy.

              • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

                Well, I just hope all that from Pence wasn’t the equivalent of Obi-Wan waving his hand and saying, “This is not the Trump you’ve been looking for.”

  4. Gibblet says:

    I see the Pence/Trump partnership as “Good Cop, Bad Cop”.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      Thank you, Gibblet, for an astute comment. Frankly, I’m a little disappointed that the Trump supporters are sitting on their hands on this one. I hope to hell they expect more than just some vapid “This is what freedom looks like.”

      My own guess is that Trump lets his subordinates (and that’s what they are) stick up for themselves. That is, I believe, the pass/fail ethic of the Trump system. That is the manly system. Certainly Trump has kinda-sorta used Pence as the good cop. We’ve all been persuaded (if not yet convinced) that although Trump has mercurial tendencies, we can rest assured that he’s deep-down a stable and thoughtful man because Mike Pence is kinda-sorta the bolted-on conservative conscience of Trump. I just hope he’s not the bolted-on girly-man.

    • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

      Another way to look at this, Gibblet, other than the “good cop/bad cop” metaphor (and it makes little sense in regards to the whole Trump presidency, but I’ll just throw it out there), is that Mike Pence was modeling adult behavior to the precious little snowflakes who have rarely seen it.

      Whatever the case may be, are we blowing this out of proportion? I think not. However disingenuous these words were, the hero of the Left is Mr. Welch when he said to Senator McCarthy during his hearings, “Have you left no sense of decency?”

      Every time that Republicans, or any decent person, misses the opportunity to call “decency” on the Left, they are feeding the beast. Whether or not McCarthy was in the right (there were indeed Communists all throughout the State Department) is not the point. The point is we have to engage the culture wars if we want to win them. It was “politically correct” for Pence give his weak, pro forma, “This is what free speech looks like” comment. And yet I thought Trump was going to bust up political correctness.

      • Kung Fu Zu Kung Fu Zu says:

        This piece shows “Women’s Studies” is just another name for left-wing-totalitarian indoctrination at universities. “Women’s Studies” is a joke and has allowed fanatics, who probably couldn’t hack it in other areas, to run riot on our campuses.


        • Timothy Lane says:

          I refer to all these “studies” programs as liberal madrassas. As for Welch’s putdown of McCarthy, what made it work was that they had given plenty of rope to hang himself (and by then, he was starting to drink himself to do, which made their task easier).

        • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

          I’m pretty sure “Women’s Studies” = “Victim’s Studies.” It’s all about how oppressed they are. White males. They are such a plague…until you need them to fight your wars, build your cars, subdue the criminal, build a civilization that you can then deconstruct with your cry-baby dogma. Etc.

          • Timothy Lane says:

            And all the other “studies” — black, Asian, Hispanic, homosexual, whatever. All are intended to teach identity politics and a feeling of victimization.

            • Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

              Yep. The Left (and parts of the right as well) focus on grievance. I’ve seen the blackness that can happen to a soul when steeped in dissatisfaction. Gratitude isn’t about patting someone else on the back. It’s about applying that magic balm that can keep us out of the grip of that Leftist mindset, that maelstrom and cesspool of thought.

              With Thanksgiving coming up, please, everyone, put away your thoughts and articles about how The Clinton House has finally come tumbling down or how spoiled and juvenile (if not outright dangerous) the precious snowflakes of the Extended Childhood Set have become. I get it. You get it. We all get it. Twelve times over.

              This site isn’t meant to be a repository for grievance. And, frankly, I’ve discovered perhaps too late that this is what most “conservatives” put their energy into.

              Well, I’m done with it. Sure, it’s a fine balance between pointing out the errors of others, for unless we do, how can they ever be fixed? But it can’t become a rut cut deep into the dirt.

              We may end up victims of these terribly snowflakes as their juvenile and misguided passions freeze civil society into something unrecognizable as America. In the meantime, this little light of mine, I’m going to let it shine, and all that. We can, by example, give a warm glow in these times of gathering darkness.

              What we write here needn’t be particularly profound. Goodness gracious, someone post a Thanksgiving story, funny or poignant, or both. Someone give us their best recipe for cranberry sauce, complete with pictures. Somebody review a book they’ve read on early America, the pilgrims. Hell, I’d even settle for an exposition on the New England Patriots.

              There are a lot of goats that need weeding out. There’s a lot of chaff to be separated from the wheat. We need to be frank (and, really…have any of you pushed the envelope of frankness) about our problems. But this shouldn’t become a mindset or way of life.

              Just look at how our universities are polluting kids. That’s a thought crime, for sure, if there ever was one. How do you give these kids who have been mind-raped by the Left some hope for their lives, some reason to live their lives positively without the kool-aid?

              That’s a tough one. But just because the lunatics are running loose and have great influence, that’s no reason that they need to set our agenda.

              Faith. Hope. Charity. Where have they gone? Think about all the good things the Left has rubbed out if only because so many on the right have taken their eye off the ball. I still don’t quite understand why the generation in their 60’s-to-80’s are so dour and unhappy. I don’t understand where that darkness came from, which was surely a darkness that gave birth to the little snowflake Communists running amok now.

              Light that candle, figuratively or literally. Let’s send the rats and cockroaches scurrying back to the dark corners, including sometimes our own worst impulses and habits — the fleas that have jumped from them to us perhaps.

              None of this is direct at Timothy or Glenn. Just random thoughts.

              • Timothy Lane says:

                Well, I’m afraid I don’t have much to add, not having any good recipes for anything. Instead, I will simply give thanks for the friends and neighbors wh have made it possible to survive here with my increasingly limited mobility (until I can get out of here and never climb another stair again).

  5. Brad Nelson Brad Nelson says:

    Well, I’m afraid I don’t have much to add, not having any good recipes for anything. Instead, I will simply give thanks for the friends and neighbors wh have made it possible to survive here with my increasingly limited mobility (until I can get out of here and never climb another stair again).

    Put that in a limerick and I may pass you through to the next grade, Timothy.

    I love the Chevy Chase National Lampoon Christmas movie. He is trying his best, against all odds (such as having actual family members at the feast) to have a good holiday. The turkey is over-cooked and dry as a bone. Aunt Edna’s jello salad has cat food in it. (Still…I think I’d prefer that over the lime jello/shredded carrots standard…standard at our get-togethers, anyway). The dog pukes under the table.

    Still, despite the grit, it’s a surprisingly optimistic movie from the wizards of snark. Although goofy, in the end it’s about trying to be happy, appreciating what you have, and making lemonade out of a whole basketful of lemons. Charm and hope win out over cynicism…done in a completely comical way, of course.

    It’s a Wonderful Life remembers a staple for me this time of year. It’s not always a wonderful life, of course. But attitude accounts for an awful lot. This movie is completely and totally about an attitude adjustment, as is that other classic, A Christmas Carol.

    The moral to this story? Oh…well…I guess they said it best in another holiday classic.

    Our culture practices hard at being unhappy and dissatisfied. They’ve made a science of it. We need to practice the opposite.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *