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Post Re: Stupid, Vulgar and Arrogant
on: April 8, 2018, 12:21
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Actually, the bulging and the extra centrifugal motion are at the equator. That's why Chimborazo is farther from the center of the Earth than McKinley/Denali.

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Post Re: Stupid, Vulgar and Arrogant
on: April 8, 2018, 15:33
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I was thinking “equator” (and actually used it correctly again in the same paragraph) but wrote “pole.” It is fixed. I certainly wouldn’t want to be mistaken as one of the stupid, vulgar, and arrogant. 😀

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on: April 8, 2018, 15:52
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I figured it was probably something like that. You got it right that they launched from near-equatorial areas (such as Cape Canaveral) when possible. Those poor Russians didn't have any such option, and despite all these allies and such all over the world, still don't. Arthur C. Clarke, in a mid-6os article on going to Mars, had the launch site in New Guinea, though I believe he mainly cited the noise factor as a reason. But it would also be a good equatorial site.

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Post Re: Stupid, Vulgar and Arrogant
on: April 8, 2018, 19:30
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The French also launch their rockets from closer to the equator, as I recall.

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on: April 8, 2018, 19:47
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I figured it might be French Polynesia, since they also do their bomb tests there. But they actually started out in the Saharan region of Algeria. They later moved the launch site to French Guiana.

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Post Re: Stupid, Vulgar and Arrogant
on: April 8, 2018, 20:01
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Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing some rockets taking off in French Guiana.

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Post Re: Stupid, Vulgar and Arrogant
on: April 9, 2018, 08:54
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If you scroll down a bit a this page, you'll see someone who says (if his figures are correct, and I have no way of confirming that other than throwing a dart at a dart board) that, compared to Cape Canaveral (28 degrees from the equator), shooting stuff off at Korou (5 degrees from the equator) will give you another 355 pounds of payload. As Barbie would say, math is hard. More info:

If you're launching into a retrograde orbit (opposite of the way the Earth turns), then being closer to the equator is a disadvantage. Israel faces this problem as the only safe direction to launch their orbital rockets is to the west. I believe they orbit things in an approximately 120 degree inclination.

Latitude is not the only factor in choosing sites. Other factors include weather, security (USSR chose a central inland area for this), and transportability (Cape Canaveral is transportable by sea barge, so they can ship huge rockets without a problem).

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on: April 9, 2018, 09:14
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An interesting article. I have a friend who was a physics major and theoretically might be able to comment about the science in a way neither of us could do. An interesting question is where the US might launch into a retrograde orbit. Perhaps the southern edge of the Alaskan panhandle would work -- it's far from the equator, reachable by water, and has lots of ocean to the west for the rising rocket to cross. But its accessibility by land transport would be poor. One problem with so much of the northern Pacific coast of the US is that it's very rainy. Perhaps the Canadians could pick a site on Vancouver Island.

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on: May 24, 2018, 18:03
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Does it surprise anyone at ST that this lying slag has been caught stealing from the government?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/24/rachel-dolezal-hit-with-felony-theft-charge-in-welfare-fraud-case.html

Or is this just a case of trying to get even deeper into her self-identity?

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