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Post The Right Kind of Racism
on: August 16, 2017, 08:47
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I found a good comment by “mountaingoat” to this article regarding Trump’s latest press conference where he blamed both sides for the violence (a sensible thing to do, in my opinion).

What bothers me is that the racists on the Left who implement discriminatory "race conscious" policies are not subject to the same criticism that the white nationalists are receiving, deservedly, for their racist ideas. Where are the media commentators expressing outrage that university administrators who impose admissions policies that discriminate on the basis of race are evil people with offensive agendas who have no place in polite society, let alone in positions of power? Where is the bipartisan condemnation of the self appointed social justice warriors who impose their racist decisions, such as using race conscious policies to limit the number of Asians admitted (and during the 20th century limiting the number of students of Jewish descent admitted) to selective universities, using "diversity" as a political weapon to justify violations of equal opportunity? Do old white guys have a license to practice racism if they wear suits and have PhDs? Yes, the white nationalists have terrible ideas, as do the leftist ideologues who make "race conscious" decisions on college campuses. If one is evil, so is the other. I am 100% in favor of speaking out against all forms of racism. But I am not in favor of unilateral disarmament.

While their ideology is repugnant, white nationalists represent a fringe movement that has already been widely rejected by a bipartisan majority of American society, and thus has very little power. Meanwhile the radical Left shamelessly discriminates while laying a guilt trip on well meaning people, and unfortunately they have acquired great power to impose their agenda through coercion. Who, my friends, is the bigger threat to freedom?

I wasn’t shocked by Kevin Williamson’s vapid artice on the subject wherein he condenses it all down to: All other causes, even if noxious, have a point. The only point to that alt-right is anger.” So called "virtue-signalling" and taking the morally easy and more marketable path (but not necessarily the right one) is common on the right.

This, alas, is what National Review has become and conservatism as a movement. Isn’t there some context to this anger? Isn’t the other side usually motivated by little more than anger? The danger here is to further institutionalize anti-white, anti-Asian, and often anti-Jewish racism by the Left in their policies and actions while condemning only white people when they act like various people-of-color victim groups, such as Black Lives Matter.

I’ve heard various accounts of what went on in Charlotte. Given that there were apparently people there on the Left intent on instigating violence, Trump was right not to play the useful idiot for the Left by condemning only white people. I don’t support Nazis, but in this land of affirmative action and institutionalized racism against white people (and Asian people, particularly in academia), we would be foolish to adopt the paradigm of the Left. Sadly, most of the blabbermouths in the conservative press have done just that.

Everyone’s making a big show of condemning Nazis. Fine. I don’t like Nazis either. But where are these people when it comes to condemning the ample racists and sexists on the Left who abide by the ideology that white people (particular white males) ought to have fewer rights simply because of their sex or the color of their skin?

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on: August 16, 2017, 11:33
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There is a history among conservative elites for rejecting moral equivalency even when it's appropriate, as it is here. The car attack by a white nationalist was clearly worse than any single leftist attack, but then there are so many more leftist than rightist attacks.

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on: August 18, 2017, 22:10
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This article has an interesting take on Trump's response to the mess in Charlottesville.

http://www.atimes.com/unintended-consequences-charlottesville/

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Post Re: The Right Kind of Racism
on: August 18, 2017, 22:16
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The Constitution, "knows no distinction between citizens on account of color
...I know of no rights of race superior to the rights of humanity"

Frederick Douglass

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Post Re: The Right Kind of Racism
on: August 19, 2017, 08:26
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Great quote from Mr. Douglass. And such a long time ago. The more things change, and all that.

I found an article by Gavin McInnes that I think expressed the situation well: Empowering the Radicals.

I read Jonah Goldberg's article today and what a weak bit of pap. None of this is Donald Trump's doing and anyone who think so is a useful idiot, especially if they purport to be a conservative writer.

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on: August 19, 2017, 08:36
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Re: Goldman article:

Trump’s populism will split both the Republican and Democratic parties, with consequences we can barely begin to imagine.

I can see that happening.

Trump violated the Prime Directive of Political Correctness, namely, to accept the most extreme demands of aggrieved minorities as the norm, and to identify any opposition to these demands with the worst sort of extremists.

This is the crux of it, state succinctly by Mr. Goldman. But let me add one crucial point: Whether or not Trump creates a new coalition of Democratic voters who are alienated from their leadership, what is likely to continue is the enlarging of the state. We will, in the social-media trenches here, be rope-a-doped by what we might now call “instigated social anxiety issues”. But realign the constituencies any way you like, the nature of the game is not likely to change.

That is, The Daily Drama creates an illusion about what this is all about, and not without at least an element of truth for that is what makes lies so powerful. But at the end of the day, no federal program or department will be abolished. No debt will be reduced. No entitlement rescinded. No unelected bureaucracy disempowered. We will all get hot and bothered over the threat of the Nazis or the mis-named Antifa — and that’s not to say their isn’t a threat, 99% of it from the Left, not the right — but government will continue to grow, feeding directly on this drama much like in the Star Trek episode, “The Day of the Dove,” wherein an alien enemy set up the circumstances so that the Enterprise crewmen would be fighting the Klingon invaders to a standstill for all time while the alien entity fed on the strong emotions produced by the hostilities.

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on: August 19, 2017, 08:41
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The MacInnes article is frightening in its way. But at least we are seeing some conservatives strike back and point out that Trump was right in pointing out that both sides were violent in Charlottesville.

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on: August 19, 2017, 08:56
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I think the scary issue here is that the Left has been able to define “opposition to the Left” as “war on oppressed races.” Try getting out of that Gordian PC knot.

And now that the lack of real opposition of the Left has left a vacuum, it will be filled. And to some extent, this may not be a bad thing. If there are thugs opposing the thugs of the Left, I won’t lose too much sleep over it.

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on: August 19, 2017, 10:20
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Here’s Andy McCarthy’s article on the subject: Charlottesville & Donald Trump: Alt-Right to Blame, but Both Sides Wrong

He goes on to say:

It is not that two-thirds of the Right really think “very fine people” make common cause with the KKK. And it’s not that they really see two sides equally at fault. It is that, regardless of comparative fault, they know there were two sides out there. And they know the media has tried to obscure that fact. The poll is less indicative of settled belief than of gut reaction.

People are fed up. If you dare notice the radical Left, you are not an observer of objective fact, you are a neo-Nazi sympathizer. If you dare notice that many of the “peaceful protesters” were swinging batons and spraying chemicals, you need a re-education course in “unconscious racism.”

Great points.

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on: August 19, 2017, 11:10
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The problem with the "both sides equally guilty" is that the white supremacists were armed, and one of them used a car to commit murder. But were they armed to defend from the attacks they knew would come? If there had been no violence from the counter-protestors, would they have attacked them anyway? And without that, would the thug in the car have attacked?

As for the Pershing matter, one article I read a day or two back agrees that the specific incident never happened, but says that there were similar (if small scale) incidents during the Moro Wars. Certainly I have long favored using methods designed to defile them and send them to Shaitan instead of their 72 virgins.

As for the Lenin statue, I read yesterday that the mayor wants it to come down (that surprised me in Seattle, you can bet) along with a Confederate statue. But both are on private property, so all he can do is urge. It seems the Lenin statue is owned by the Fremont Chamber of Commerce, who apparently specialize in rope for hanging capitalists because they want to keep it standing.

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