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on: July 11, 2017, 17:29
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Basically it has been shown now that the Trump campaign wanted to collude with Russia in defeating Hillary.

David French: There Is Now Evidence that Senior Trump Officials Attempted to Collude With Russia.

Rich Lowry sums up the gist of it:

To welcome assurances of support from a hostile government and agree to meet someone billed as a Russian government lawyer for dirt on your opponent is wildly out of bounds.

The lawyer they were talking to may or may not have had ties to high officials in the Russian government. But Trump officials thought he did.

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on: July 11, 2017, 20:47
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I'm not sure this amounts to much other than destroying young Trump's credibility.

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on: July 12, 2017, 08:45
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1) Here’s a campaign that didn’t mind colluding with an enemy to win an American election.

2) Here’s a campaign that either didn’t mind the ability of Putin to later blackmail them or were too naive to think of it.

3) Trump Jr. is shown to be a liar like his father.

4) As I think Jay Nordlinger pointed out (quoting another famous saying), “this might not be illegal but it sure is damnable.” Or something like that.

5) It’s unlikely that Trump Jr. (and the other top staff members) were acting without Donald Trump’s blessing. That is, we can’t isolate this to a naive young Trump Jr.

6) Trump is causing the swamp to raise, not lower.

Jay Nordlinger notes, “In politics, as in other areas of life, this is true: If people cover up one thing, chances are they are covering up another.” This situation adds a lot more fuel to the fire. Word is that Pence is beginning to distance himself. The House and Senate GOP, stung by carrying Trump’s water on a health care bill and then later called “mean” apparently have little tolerance left for this clown of a president.

Things could get interesting.

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on: July 12, 2017, 09:59
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I don't expect any legal problems from this, but it certainly means the investigations and hearings will go on a lot longe, which may lead to interesting results.

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on: July 13, 2017, 08:47
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In the whirlwind of partisan baloney, Andy McCarthy has a sensible article on the subject: Trump, Russia, and the Misconduct of Public Men. I like this bit:

On the Right and in Republican circles, there are staunch Trump supporters, as well as reluctant ones (including moi) who voted for Trump reasoning that the only practical alternative was Hillary (not an alternative). The former are all in, seemingly no matter what Trump does; the latter support him when he pushes conservative policies but are not invested in him, politically or personally. Trump-Russia brings the divide into sharp relief.

McCarthy's overall point, aside from aptly describing these two camps, is that it isn't necessary that anything Trump did be illegal in regards to impeaching this miscreant. He doesn't think we're there yet. But it's worth being educated on some of the original-intent of our Constitution.

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on: July 14, 2017, 07:14
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Well, I'm skeptical of the Russia business. Even this latest event could simply be the Trump amateur hour -- not good, but not criminal and possibly no more unethical than any other aspect of politics.

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