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Post Re: Albert Einstein
on: March 15, 2018, 18:09
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Yes, von Neumann is the man. And his intellect is so far above most people’s you get a glimpse of the possibilities. He’s not god, but compared to my measly brain power, there was at least a little divine fairy dust floating around there.

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on: March 15, 2018, 18:20
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Tom Weller in the Hugo-winning parody Science Made Stupid had a summary of subatomic particles, and after that commented that an amusing but less believable (I think that was the phrasing; I no longer have access to the book, unfortunately) parody of Weller's material could be find in any actual book on the subject. A friend of mine with a BS in physics basically agreed. (He also has a nice ad for becoming a quantum mechanic in the back.

Incidentally, I highly recommend Weller's book. He starts the section on evolution by illustrating the evolution of preachers from Moses to Savonarola to Dr. Gene Scott, and illustrates the evolutionary tree of horses with a branch on the Xylidae, illustrated with a hobby horse, a saw horse, and a Trojan horse. His section on dinosaurs shows a diplocaudus and diplocephalus, noting that this reconstruction has been disputed because bones of the two are always found together -- in other words, they found a pair of animals buried together and put the heads on one and the tails on another. His discussion of geology includes the display of how volcanic eructions work as well as the origin of earthquakes (it starts with a paper reporting a psychic predicting a quake -- and further below is a headline about Princess Di being eaten by a giant squid). He also has a nice discussion of the 3 phases of the water table (elaboration, condescension, and participation). A list of some unusual measures includes the millihelen -- the amount of beauty requires to launch 1 ship. And there's so much more.

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Post Re: Albert Einstein
on: March 15, 2018, 18:48
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Another one of those brilliant Hungarian Jews who contributed to science in a huge way was Eugene Wigner. He was a year ahead of von Neumann in a Luthern school and knew him well. When asked how such a small area in Hungary could produce so many geniuses (there were something like eight) Wigner replied that only von Neumann was a genius. Perhaps the man was being modest, but I think he probably truly believed what he was saying as von Neumann was amazing.

Nevertheless, Wigner was brilliant and made major contributions to the development of the bomb and physics. He also won the Nobel Prize.

Interesting, he made the following remark,

"It was not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent way without reference to consciousness."

Call it what you want, but he is talking about God. Funny how the truly brilliant, competent people such as Wigner and von Neumann are able to come to such a conclusion, while many of those less gifted, are not.

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Post Re: Albert Einstein
on: March 15, 2018, 18:49
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Here’s that book: Science Made Stupid.

Advanced mathematical thinkers are a wonder. And in today’s consumer- and tech-oriented culture, those who can contribute to our trinkets are the new Cardinals and Bishops of the Progressive Church.

And that’s not to diminish esoteric thinking, advanced mathematics, etc. But it has led to an atrophying of man as a moral creature as technicians shove aside the traditional and needed avocation of moral reasoner. And that’s not to be confused with being a good creature. We should all remember St. Augustine’s famous line: “Lord, make me chaste. But not yet.”

It’s not about being a goody two shoes. It’s about being adept at understanding this world in terms other than the purely physical or self-serving. It has been the evil Left who has used the Alinksy tactic of destroying people via their own standards. With decades of this acid drip, now no one (or very few) think of presenting a true moral outlook because they don’t want to be called a hypocrite, for who is pure enough to “judge”?

No important moral outlook can come from atheism/materialism. This is why you have this increasing “Men without chests” factor:

“We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.”

The entire idea of moral virtues has been downgraded. What passes for High Moral Thinking springs from little more than the corrupt politics of the day. It has not necessarily always been so.

We are living in a technologically rich but morally bankrupt culture.

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Post Re: Albert Einstein
on: March 15, 2018, 18:53
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"It was not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent way without reference to consciousness.”

That’s a good quote from Wigner. It would indeed seem a safe bet that consciousness predates physicality, and necessarily so.

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Post Re: Albert Einstein
on: March 15, 2018, 19:54
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That quote about honor and traitors sounds familiar. Who's it attributed to?

Isaac Asimov had a nice joke that could be referenced by the famous St. Augustine line (which gets conveniently quoted by the devil in Stephen King's Needful Things, at least the movie version). A rabbi and a Catholic priest are talking, and the priest asks the rabbi if he ever tried ham. The rabbi admitted he had, then asked the priest if he had ever had (heterosexual) sex. He admitted he had. The rabbi then asked, "A lot better than a ham sandwich, isn't it?"

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Post Re: Albert Einstein
on: March 16, 2018, 09:13
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C.S. Lewis.

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