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Timothy-
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on: August 25, 2018, 18:00
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It seems logical to have this as a forum heading. One piece of breaking news that has just come up is that John McCain, having chosen to forego further medical treatment, has now died. Sadly, it was four days before his birthday; whatever I thought of his performance as a Senator, his war service in Vietnam was highly meritorious, and it would have been nice for him to reach his birthday.

A crucial consequence, of course, will be his replacement as Senator. My understanding from the discussions in various sites earlier is that the vote for his replacement will be Election Day, 2020. Thus, the governor can choose a senator to hold the seat for 2 years. Most likely he would wait a few days, perhaps until after the funeral. No doubt this will be after the state's primary, which is scheduled for August 28. There are 3 significant GOP candidates running. One is Joe Arpaio, considered very unlikely to win in November and rather unpopular with most of the party leadership, including the governor.

But Arpaio was running 3rd in the polls anyway. The current leader is Martha McSally, distrusted by many conservatives. Kelli Ward, who tried to defeat McCain in the 2016, losing 51-39, trails her but we'll see in 3 days. If McSally wins, Ward would be an excellent choice to unify the party, but I'm not sure if the GOP leadership there is capable of making such a concession to conservative voters, but Governor Ducey does have a generally conservative record. One of his appointments to the state Supreme Court was conservative activist Clint Bolick.

This will also be good news for Brett Kavanaugh, since the replacement will almost certainly support him and give him a bit of leeway in the confirmation vote.

Another piece of political news earlier is that the special election in Ohio's 12th CD was called, with the GOP candidate winning. Presumably he won by enough to preclude a free recount.

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on: August 25, 2018, 21:18
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Hopefully, Ducey does not appoint McCain's wife to the vacant position.

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on: August 25, 2018, 22:05
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Unfortunately, if she wants it it's probably hers. But we can always hope, and especially if McSally wins, Ducey might conceivably want to unify the party. (In some ways it would work even better in reverse. Go Kelli Ward!)

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on: August 25, 2018, 22:31
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From the timing of the announcement that McCain was not going to receive "treatment" any longer, to the rapidity of his demise thereafter, I have little doubt that McCain has been in a comma or brain-dead for some time.

I would guess the family has kept John legally alive until now and only decided to pull-the-plug at this particular moment as Tuesday August 28th will see the Arizona primaries for numerous political offices including that for governor. The present governor Ducey has not made any promise regarding the possible appointment of McCain's wife. His challenger, Bennett has promised, should he win the primary, that he will not appoint Cindy McCain to John's vacant seat.

It would not be the first time that this type of thing has happened.

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on: August 26, 2018, 08:00
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Usually such replacements are only temporary, either because they choose not to go further or because they lose. (Both showed up in 1978, as Muriel Humphrey retired and Maryon Allen was defeated after the deaths of Hubert Humphrey and James Allen. The latter was a solidly conservative Democrat, who even supported the GOP in the dispute over the 1974 New Hampshire Senate race. This was crucial because it tied the Senate committee handling the matter.) But Margaret Chase Smith made a long career from replacing her husband, and even ran for President.

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on: August 26, 2018, 08:14
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Cindy McCain is 64 years old and could stay in office for 12-18 years if lucky. She is clearly an ambitious woman and she would have the added pleasure of sticking it to Trump, every now and then, to remind him of his lack of due respect for John.

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on: August 26, 2018, 08:48
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John McCain fought in the military for his country and particularly and extensively suffered. That’s more than I’ve done. You’ve got to give him that.

In politics, he was the consummate RINO. His apparent true joy was “reaching across the aisle” to make friends with his political enemies while stabbing his allies in the back. This was white-washed into the term, “maverick.”

McCain was the kind of career politician whose own self-importance is the ruin of us all. We should dismiss no man easily, but the only reason we know his name is because he was an accomplished demagogue as all long-term politicians must be. I’ll not pretend his stature is anything more than a sort of “participation trophy” due to his long attendance in the Senate.

As a RINO he put the stamp on that brand, running right during election time and then, safely elected, dancing the two-step with Teddy Kennedy. These self-important schmucks are about as far from the Founder’s ideal as one can imagine.

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on: August 26, 2018, 08:59
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There was a time when being a bipartisan maverick wasn't such a bad thing because both parties had a variety of views and confined dirty politics to difficult campaigns. But that has long since gone away, and unfortunately too many GOP Beltway Bandits continued to act as if it were true. It also allows them to "stand tall in Georgetown" a lot, of course.

Jeff the Flake and Chucky the Schemer have proposed renaming the Richard Russell Senate Office Building after John McCain. Of course, Russell was a segregationist in his days as a Georgia Democrat. This gets rids of an embarrassment for the Demagogues while they boast of their "bipartisanship" by honoring a Senator who loved to side with them periodically, often just to stick it to his own side. And how long will Senate and House names last now that changing them to fit political fashions has been established as a custom?

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on: August 26, 2018, 09:12
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One of the defining moments of this dishonest clown’s career was his “campaign finance reform” which, as Rush noted, acted (or would act) as an “incumbent retention bill.”

I think John McCain was a total fraud. His state’s voters should have either elected an honest liberal (if there is such a thing) or a real conservative.

“Reaching across the aisle” is value-neutral other than how it looks on the pages of the New York Times, which is all that concerned him. McCain is about the best argument there is for term limits.

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on: August 28, 2018, 15:21
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Fox News just announced that Missouri is proposing a law which would ban tissue culture meats from being called meat. Meat would have to come from an animal with 2 or 4 legs. Obviously, edible arthropods would be excluded, even those coming from land animals such as locusts, grasshoppers, or ants. (Or spiders. Supposedly some brands of "soy sauce" actually consist of protein from spiders.) Legless worms (or snakes) would also be excluded. What all these different foods would be called isn't clear.

But at least long pig could legally still be sold as meat. Acquiring it legally could be more difficult.

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